[jillybean]

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teams tonight

[mw64ahw]

You have the balance of points so X, otherwise I would expect play to go as as per any agreement versus interference over 1N but I guess that doesn't exist either?

[pescetom]

X, it's what I would have agreed anyway.

[Cyberyeti]

I don't like x simply for the reason that opener could have A♦ and 5 or 6 club tricks, so I could be about to look very stupid.

My diamond would be 4+ and not a weak NT, so I would bid 3♥ (fit), not sure what is standard here.

[apollo1201]

I was gonna say Xers will see DA plus AKQJ 6th of C while realizing they were cold for 4H. But it was pointed out already.

2NT is similar to Truscott but it implies a 5th D and buries H forever. Partner will never guess we have a 5th H if we bid 3H after the likely retreat to 3D.

Those who play transfers here have an easy bid but it is not standard.

2C for majors is popular here maybe you can try this and it will work especially when partner does not bid 2S.

[jillybean]

mw64ahw, on 2026-May-30, 01:06, said:

You have the balance of points so X, otherwise I would expect play to go as as per any agreement versus interference over 1N but I guess that doesn't exist either?

How does Leb work here?

X 8+hcp, pass <8 hcp appears to be popular here in Canada

[jillybean]

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2♠ transfer

[apollo1201]

 jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 06:05, said:

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2♠ transfer

Luckily it was advancer and not overcaller who had Cs. At least we won t write down -180 but we are not clear yet.

If we pass, it should not be forcing (we could have Xed with 9 HCPs so it does not clearly make us majoritary enough for pass to be forcing, right?) but at least it says I cannot X that. And see if partner can move over this. Safe but if it goes pass pass we will regret it (we have to sit if partner Xes). Low risk low reward.

3H now would clearly express our strength but we might have nowhere to go. High risk high reward.

Knowing your opening style (D = 3+ or 4+, C = 3+ or 2+) and if advancer promises 5 or 6 C could help assess the likelihood of H fit opposite.

But let s take the high road anyway.

[mike777]

 jillybean, on 2026-May-29, 23:29, said:

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teams tonight

Double if they run clubs, so be it

[jillybean]

mike777, on 2026-May-30, 08:01, said:

Double if they run clubs, so be it

They did, 670 in the wrong column.

My auction wasn't exactly like this, I tend to make the worst possible choice when under pressure.
This auction comes up perhaps once every 18 months, I hope that remembering it is the opposite of D0PV will help. (or making a generic CC)
Not all was lost, we won by 2

[mw64ahw]

jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 05:55, said:

How does Leb work here?

X 8+hcp, pass <8 hcp appears to be popular here in Canada

We play a modified version of Hello here (transfer advances?) so with partner I bid 2♦ ♥s and follow up with 3♦ showing x54x forcing to 3N

[mike777]

jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 08:15, said:

They did, 670 in the wrong column.

My auction wasn't exactly like this, I tend to make the worst possible choice when under pressure.
This auction comes up perhaps once every 18 months, I hope that remembering it is the opposite of D0PV will help. (or making a generic CC)
Not all was lost, we won by 2

Did you lead a heart vs 1ntx?

The fact that they did not run, tells me they are ready for a d lead...but....

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 05:55, said:

X 8+hcp, pass <8 hcp appears to be popular here in Canada

X 8+hcp, anything else competitive NF is still non-expert standard AFAIK. Certainly easy to agree and play.
It's not hard to imagine ways to do better, but there are lots of variables to pin down and this is a relatively low frequency situation.

"Perfection is the enemy of Good" (Voltaire)

[mikeh]

jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 05:55, said:

How does Leb work here?

X 8+hcp, pass <8 hcp appears to be popular here in Canada

Only amongst weak players. Wtf do you think makes 8 hcp a penalty double? Does an opening bid of 1D promise a strong notrump?

I know a lot of players, some very good, who double with 9 counts. Not me. I want my penalty double to say that they are usually going down, not to say that we have close to half the deck….which in my experience rarely leads to beating 1N.

I guess I’m out of touch. But I like my results.

[mikeh]

jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 08:15, said:

They did, 670 in the wrong column.

My auction wasn't exactly like this, I tend to make the worst possible choice when under pressure.
This auction comes up perhaps once every 18 months, I hope that remembering it is the opposite of D0PV will help. (or making a generic CC)
Not all was lost, we won by 2

What did you lead? I can’t imagine not leading a heart

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 05:55, said:

How does Leb work here?

X 8+hcp, pass <8 hcp appears to be popular here in Canada

Your lower floor depends heavily on how freq. you open submin. hands.
I think 9HCP is closer to the mark, but again if you believe in opening all
... you should raise the floor.

At the end you only need 50% to make the X worthwhile, the main problem is,
how high the X generates a forcing pass.
And if later doubles are penalyt of T/O, I prefer T/O.

You dont need Lebensohl, weak single suited hands can bid their suit direct,
it is a common idea, to play 2C as majors.

If they run to clubs, you can bid 3D, you have a fit, you should show the fit.
Partner will have at most 4 clubs, this means they have a club fit, and you have
a diamond 8+ fit.
Going for blood at lower levels with a fit is seldom a good idea.