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Can you reach the best game? A difficult hand to bid in any system...

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Posted 2007-July-12, 04:00

3NT, I'm going down...
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Posted 2007-July-12, 04:30

I will be in 3NT in any system I've played.

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Shows extras, any rebid past 2♠ guarantees game values in our style


I like to play this way as well. 2S for me, in addition, is NF and is a hand which would not accept an invitation to 3NT (though possibly would accept an invitation to 4S).

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Posted 2007-July-12, 05:04

Maybe also for Free:

1♠: 13+ 5+♠ forcing
- 2♦: GF, 5+ cards
2♠: Minimum
- 3♥: Hearts (either slam interest or no ♣ stopper, otherwise bid 3NT)
4♦: No stopper, 3♦
- 4♠: Well I got Ax, maybe right contract
Pass: Okay

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Posted 2007-July-12, 06:27

In a weak NT system

1♠ 2♦
2NT 3♥
3♠ 4♠

is a possible auction.

But we might just raise 2NT to 3NT.
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Posted 2007-July-12, 07:30

I play one light 2/1 system and one FG 2/1 system. Neitehr of them particularly like opening 1NT with a 5-card major.

In one system we would probably bid
1S - 2D
2NT - 3NT (2NT = 15-19 balanced FG)

We could, if South judged to do so, bid
1S - 2D
2NT - 3C*
3H - 3S
4S

3C = enquiry
3H = 15-17, 3 diamonds, decent controls
3S = doubleton spade support, looking for the best game
4S = OK, sounds better than 3NT

...but I have a sneaky feeling we'd have the first auction

The 2/1 partnership would bid
1S - 1NT
2C* - 2NT
3NT

but at least we haven't highlighted the club lead
2C = balanced or clubs or decent hand with 6 spades
2NT = invitational without 5 hearts or 4+ clubs
if 2C is doubled we may have a rethink about the best game
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Posted 2007-July-12, 09:40

I don't think it is a stretch to bid:

1♠-2♦
3♦-3♥
3♠-4♠
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Posted 2007-July-12, 15:42

I'm surprised nobody suggesed somethign like this:

EDIT: I was so surprised that reread the post and saw Mike had :), why don't you use the color suit symbols mike?

1♠-1NT*
2♦*-3♦
3♥-3♠
4♠

1NT forcing.
2♦ 3+


I might very well bid 3NT instead of 3♥ hard to not be biased, but rest of the bidding is clear in my 2/1 style.
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Posted 2007-July-12, 15:58

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In a weak NT system

1♠ 2D
2NT 3♥
3♠ 4♠

is a possible auction.

But we might just raise 2NT to 3NT.


I would certainly raise 2NT to 3NT.

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Posted 2007-July-15, 00:13

Gerben's sequence is perfect. For me, opener's second round 2♠ would be just a "mark time" bid, could have substantial extra strength but nothing more descriptive to say. I don't raise pard's 2♦ unless I have four of them.

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Posted 2007-July-15, 18:36

Fluffy, on Jul 12 2007, 04:42 PM, said:

I'm surprised nobody suggesed somethign like this:

1♠-1NT*
2♦*-3♦
3♥-3♠
4♠

1NT forcing.
2♦ 3+

I would also think that start seems reasonable.

1♠ natural 5+
1NT forcing
2♦ 3+
3♦ inviting
3♥ showing a ♥ stopper and no ♣ stopper
3♠ doubleton ♠, no ♣ stopper

At this point since responder is limited to invitational values, you could even pass 3♠ I suppose. Might be a reasonable choice at MPs.
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