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How Do You Bid This? 2/1, experienced pick up pard

#1 User is offline   ArcLight 

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Posted 2008-January-27, 17:19

IMPS, unfavorable
how would you bid these 2 hands
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HAND 1

pard passes, RHO opens 1 (SAYC)
You hold:
A 9 x x
A 9 8 7 5 2
Q
9 4

1. What do you bid?

the bidding goes:
p 1 1 p
2 2 ?

2. what do you bid?
(What do you think opener has? A good hand with at least 4=5 in the blacks?)

Pard held:
x x
K J x x
A x x x
Q x x


3. How should the bidding go from the beginning?
What does it mean if you PASS?
What does it mean if you bid 3?
What does it mean if you DBL?


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Hand 2

How would you bid this? Whats your plan?

IMPS, unfavorable

1. You deal, what is your bid:
J
K Q T 8 7 6 5
A T x x
A



The bididng goes:
1 p 1 p
?

2. What is your second bid:



The bidding went

1 p 1 p
3 p 4 p
?

3. What do you think of the bidding? What do you bid now?

1 p 1 p
3 p 4 p
4NT P 5 P
6

4. What do you think of 6 vs. 6?


5. How should this have been bid from start to finish?
Responders hand:
Q x x x x
A x
K Q x x
x x
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Posted 2008-January-27, 17:26

1) I would just bid 4H. This might make, or might induce LHO to do something, or w/e.

2) I would open 1H and rebid 3H. This hand isn't worth a game force and I'm not willing to risk playing 2D by bidding that. After the 4D bid 4N was an extremely poor bid, but that's a common mistake. You must bid your hand in context. In context of a 3D bid your hand sucks. Don't make the mistake of thinking "I have a very strong hand" and always bidding it like that. Think of what you need for slam after 4D. You need at a minimum 2 keycards and the queen of trumps. If partner has an ace and the KQxx(x) of diamonds there is no way he will EVER let you out after you have jumpshifted. The bid after 4D is 4H, offering a choice to play there. Having luckily caught 2 with the queen for diamonds 6H is a very poor bid as partner might have just a stiff. If you had the KQJT of hearts 6H would be good, but here you're risking 2 losers. The whole reason you are guessing now is because you took control of the auction without knowing enough.

3) My auction would have been 1H-1S-3H-4H.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 17:32

>1) I would just bid 4H. This might make, or might induce LHO to do something, or w/e.


Justin, do you mean you would overcall 4, or overcall 1 then bid 4 after pard advances 2?
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Posted 2008-January-27, 17:38

ArcLight, on Jan 27 2008, 06:32 PM, said:

>1) I would just bid 4H. This might make, or might induce LHO to do something, or w/e.


Justin, do you mean you would overcall 4, or overcall 1 then bid 4 after pard advances 2?

1H followed by 4H after the 2C bid.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 18:55

I would rebid 3 on the first, and agree with everything Justin said on the second.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 07:30

jdonn, on Jan 27 2008, 07:55 PM, said:

I would rebid 3 on the first, and agree with everything Justin said on the second.

I did rebid 3, unfortunately 4 was making. :)
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Posted 2008-January-28, 07:45

#1.1 2H, but I dont mind 1H
#1.2 3H, I have enough to compete to 3H,
I have no interest in playing 4H
I dont care, what opener has, as long
as partner has a inv. raise for hearts
#1.3 Partner will pass 3H, he showed his hand
If I pass 2S, I have a min. over call,
3H is to play, X shows add. values,
suggesting a penalty
#2.1 open hearts, make a jump rebid in hearts
#2.2 3H
#2.3 nothing, but it trurned out better than I though,
4D should be stronger than 5D, hence I bid 4NT
#2.4 nothing, I made a decision to introduce diamonds,
I got lucky, 6D it is
#2.5 Over 3H partner should bid 4D as a cue, if you play,
that this shows a diamond honor, opener will get
exited and you will end up in 6H, if it just shows 1rst or
2nd round control, you opener may just bid 4H (HCP
wise he has a min. hand for his bid), and he has to do
something to slow down the auction.

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Posted 2008-January-28, 11:07

I would have bid 3 on the first one too, and I think you have made your job with this bid (you are allowed to pass too, so partner should understand you have not a complete garbage).

On the second, I will never bid 3. Don't think I am strong enough, and above this, I don't have a two-suited hand. So 3 for me.
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