I play reverse in this sequence as not showing extra. it's important for partner to know that you have 5+!D when you rebid 2!D, so when you do not, you bid your 4 card major.
Reverses Promise Extras?
#22
Posted 2008-February-22, 15:15
If I play 2♣ GF, I prefer:
1. IDEAL: Opener's rebids do not show extra strength, but they are transfers, to gain space when a fit is found. However, this is best when 2♣ is GF and artificial.
2. SECOND BEST: I prefer 2♦ to be waiting if 2♣ is GF, to allow other calls to show extras.
3. THIRD BEST: No extras shown. However, I prefer this style when 2♣ might not be GF if rebid 2♣. When this is used, however, I like the new calls to be "questionable," and 2NT GF even if Responder was not GF. 2♦, 2♥, or 2♠ could result in a stop at 3♣, but not 2NT.
1. IDEAL: Opener's rebids do not show extra strength, but they are transfers, to gain space when a fit is found. However, this is best when 2♣ is GF and artificial.
2. SECOND BEST: I prefer 2♦ to be waiting if 2♣ is GF, to allow other calls to show extras.
3. THIRD BEST: No extras shown. However, I prefer this style when 2♣ might not be GF if rebid 2♣. When this is used, however, I like the new calls to be "questionable," and 2NT GF even if Responder was not GF. 2♦, 2♥, or 2♠ could result in a stop at 3♣, but not 2NT.
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#23
Posted 2008-February-22, 16:13
Arend and I have experimented with several response structures to a gameforcing 2C response.
We used to play something artificial with 2D = minimal unbalanced. This worked well when it came up but we found that we didn't have enough calls left to deal with the other hands.
Then we switched to 2D = any minimum with other calls showing extras (some artificial). This worked well when we had extras but it could be cumbersome when we had a minimal response. Bidding 2D with all minimal balanced and unbalanced hands seemed too much.
Now we play:
2D = minimal, often balanced but could have long diamonds.
2H, 2S = natural, unbalanced, does not show extras.
2NT = 6+ diamonds, at most 2 clubs, extra values.
3C = 4+ clubs, extras values.
3D = 6+ diamonds, 3 clubs, extra values.
3H/3S = minimal splinter.
3NT = 4-4-4-1 exactly, 15-17 pts.
Note that we do not open 1D with 17-19 points. We have artificial follow-ups to a few of these calls.
We did a fair amount of practice bidding with all three of these sets of agreements. I think we both found that this last set of agreements worked much better than what we had before. The fact that it is so natural is an added benefit.
We used to play something artificial with 2D = minimal unbalanced. This worked well when it came up but we found that we didn't have enough calls left to deal with the other hands.
Then we switched to 2D = any minimum with other calls showing extras (some artificial). This worked well when we had extras but it could be cumbersome when we had a minimal response. Bidding 2D with all minimal balanced and unbalanced hands seemed too much.
Now we play:
2D = minimal, often balanced but could have long diamonds.
2H, 2S = natural, unbalanced, does not show extras.
2NT = 6+ diamonds, at most 2 clubs, extra values.
3C = 4+ clubs, extras values.
3D = 6+ diamonds, 3 clubs, extra values.
3H/3S = minimal splinter.
3NT = 4-4-4-1 exactly, 15-17 pts.
Note that we do not open 1D with 17-19 points. We have artificial follow-ups to a few of these calls.
We did a fair amount of practice bidding with all three of these sets of agreements. I think we both found that this last set of agreements worked much better than what we had before. The fact that it is so natural is an added benefit.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
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