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how much do you trust your opponents?

Poll: what now? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

what now?

  1. pass (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. double (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  3. 5 clubs (17 votes [85.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.00%

  4. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:21

♠K973
♥76
♦95
♣K9764

IMPS, Opponents vulnerable

W - N - E - S
ps-1♥-2♥-ps
2♠-4♣-4♠-??

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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:25

5♣

I trust everybody - partner, RHO, myself.
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That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:27

5C, WTP?
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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:29

5♣. If they bid 5♠ my next bid will be the "I don't trust my opponents" card.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:30

Partner caught K9xxx in trump support; why don't we tell him about it?
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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:32

I don't understand what this thread is about, 4C is quite a statement and we have 5-card support.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:54

I trust my partner, I don't care about the opponents.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 19:57

Even if partner had bid only 3♣ I would bid 5♣ here.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 20:12

Is p a good player, too? Doesn't matter, I bid 5♣ even opposite a bad partner, if only as a matter of principle.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 21:00

Double is crazy ...

we might get a one trick set ...

meanwhile we have a decent chance at game opposite as little as

♠ -
♥ AKxxx
♦ xxx
♣ AQxxx

The spade void might not be proven but partner rates to have more than this to offer the four-level opposite a passing partner.
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Posted 2008-February-27, 00:14

Cascade, on Feb 26 2008, 09:00 PM, said:

Double is crazy ...

we might get a one trick set ...

meanwhile we have a decent chance at game opposite as little as

♠ -
♥ AKxxx
♦ xxx
♣ AQxxx

The spade void might not be proven but partner rates to have more than this to offer the four-level opposite a passing partner.

I nominate "rates to have" as the understatement of the year. 4♣ with this is crazy! I expect 6-5 or 6-6.
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Posted 2008-February-27, 03:07

han, on Feb 27 2008, 08:32 AM, said:

I don't understand what this thread is about, 4C is quite a statement and we have 5-card support.

Ditto
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Posted 2008-February-27, 03:33

cherdano, on Feb 27 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

Cascade, on Feb 26 2008, 09:00 PM, said:

Double is crazy ...

we might get a one trick set ...

meanwhile we have a decent chance at game opposite as little as

♠ -
♥ AKxxx
♦ xxx
♣ AQxxx

The spade void might not be proven but partner rates to have more than this to offer the four-level opposite a passing partner.

I nominate "rates to have" as the understatement of the year. 4♣ with this is crazy! I expect 6-5 or 6-6.

I am not suggesting 4♣ on this just illustrating that quite a weak hand will make game.
Wayne Burrows

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Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon

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Posted 2008-February-27, 04:50

han, on Feb 27 2008, 01:32 AM, said:

I don't understand what this thread is about, 4C is quite a statement and we have 5-card support.

Right.
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Posted 2008-February-27, 06:12

since the question was "how much do we trust our opps"...

if we trust'em (and that means 6-3 in trumps):
seems like we need 3 tempos to overtake trump control (the payoff would be hefty, 500-800, even when 5c fails) and that's unlikely to happen i'd go for 5c

however if i'm up against a player known for agressiveness (or even better foolishness) i would go for blood and lead club K
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Posted 2008-February-27, 06:37

Very well Wayne.



I though this was closer :).
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Posted 2008-February-27, 13:01

Fluffy, on Feb 28 2008, 01:37 AM, said:

Very well Wayne.



I though this was closer B).

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Posted 2008-February-27, 13:06

None. That's the point: 5♣ makes easy.
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Posted 2008-February-27, 14:26

I have once read that you should *always* raise partner when he happens to hit your fivecard.
I have followed that advice and have never been disappointed.

This season i have not raised once and it was terribly wrong.

So 5♣ it is, also without the king(s).
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