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#1 User is offline   Apollo81 

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Posted 2008-February-25, 15:53

p-(p)-1-(4)
Dbl*-(p)-?

*negative

unfavorable, BAM

QJ9x
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AJx
KQxx

Pass or 4?
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Posted 2008-February-25, 16:24

I'd bid 4S with this.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-February-25, 16:29

4 for me.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 16:38

Pass. Pard is a passed hand and I like our chances for +200 / +500 against a possible minus.

Edited: Got the vulnerability wrong. I bid 4 then.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 16:40

pclayton, on Feb 25 2008, 05:38 PM, said:

Pass. Pard is a passed hand and I like our chances for +200 / +500 against a possible minus.

They are NV and we are VUL.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 04:16

4. A bit uncomfortable, but might make if pard has no spade wastage.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 13:35

Easy 4S. Bidding 4S over these doubles is a lot diff than bidding at the 5 level.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 13:54

I should have made this a poll, I have responses from good players in each of the following categories so far:

easy 4
4, dont like it
pass, dont like it
easy pass
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Posted 2008-February-26, 14:09

At MP-bam partner will make some risky X and expect me to do the same. There is a good chance game is good but game will probably never be great. I dont mind missing a 65% game if on the other side there is hands where 4S has no play wich might be the case if partner X with many 8-10 counts. I dont open 1m light in 3seat so i expect partner to be quick with these Xs. I also expect partner to bid 4S with 5S and big club fit. So under these condition i think pass is reasonnable otherwise i bid 4S.
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Posted 2008-February-26, 18:23

Does "negative" mean that it promises four+ spades? In that case 4.Oh well, I suppose he will bid 5 if he doesn't have four spades.
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Posted 2008-February-28, 10:12

partner's hand was K10x Kxx Kxx J98x, looks a little silly but it was necessary to double 4 in order to tie the board, the other table opened 1 with the OP and it went 4 X all pass, i did pull the double, so no biscuit this time
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Posted 2008-February-28, 10:54

Apollo81, on Feb 28 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

partner's hand was K10x Kxx Kxx J98x, looks a little silly but it was necessary to double 4 in order to tie the board

I love that kind of justification. "Yes I know I made a bad call but if I had made the right call then we would have lost IMPs for sure so it's your fault".
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-February-28, 12:46

han, on Feb 28 2008, 11:54 AM, said:

Apollo81, on Feb 28 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

partner's hand was K10x Kxx Kxx J98x, looks a little silly but it was necessary to double 4 in order to tie the board

I love that kind of justification. "Yes I know I made a bad call but if I had made the right call then we would have lost IMPs for sure so it's your fault".

well it is BAM sometimes you have to do weird things
doesnt seem 100% clearcut to me, offline i did get one "auto double, auto pass" response from a good player
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