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how to stay out of slam 2/1 except if suit is rebid
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Posted 2009-October-10, 15:42
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2009-October-10, 15:49
I don't think I'd be that close to reaching slam here, whatever methods I used.
How did you reach slam?
How did you reach slam?
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2009-October-10, 16:12
skaeran, on Oct 10 2009, 04:49 PM, said:
I don't think I'd be that close to reaching slam here, whatever methods I used.
How did you reach slam?
How did you reach slam?
I could see it happening after 1H p 2D p 3C p 3H.
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Posted 2009-October-10, 16:33
I can't.
1♥-2♦
3♣-3♥
3♠-4♦
4♥-pass
is about as optimistic an auction as I can think of.
1♥-2♦
3♣-3♥
3♠-4♦
4♥-pass
is about as optimistic an auction as I can think of.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-October-10, 18:50
Quote
I could see it happening after 1H p 2D p 3C p 3H.
I could see it happening after a quart of Jim Beam.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
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Posted 2009-October-10, 23:51
1H-----2D
3C-----3H
3S
This seems automatic.
Now
Do you think a 4C cuebid show AKQ of clubs or could it be a stiff ? (I prefer to play that a cuebids in 2nd suits is showing AKQ but i think that many play that in a 2nd suit/fragment any control (stiff/void) is acceptable). After the 3S bids if north overbid by making a 4C serious cue instead of a non-serious i think you will go overboard.
3C-----3H
3S
This seems automatic.
Now
Do you think a 4C cuebid show AKQ of clubs or could it be a stiff ? (I prefer to play that a cuebids in 2nd suits is showing AKQ but i think that many play that in a 2nd suit/fragment any control (stiff/void) is acceptable). After the 3S bids if north overbid by making a 4C serious cue instead of a non-serious i think you will go overboard.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2009-October-11, 00:29
Since clubs is partners suit, I would be vary to make my
first cue in his suit, so I would go with 4D, which should
deny a top honor in club.
Opener will bid 4H, and thats basically it.
With kind regards
Marlowe
first cue in his suit, so I would go with 4D, which should
deny a top honor in club.
Opener will bid 4H, and thats basically it.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2009-October-11, 02:00
To bid 4♣ over 3♠ is awful, regardless of whether it's serious or non-serious. A void in partner's second suit isn't an asset, especially when you have only three trumps.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-October-11, 05:38
I can't see a slam at all. Surely if you are playing 2/1 not GF if rebid, you have to have general game invitation strength to reply 2D. And you haven't. After a 1NT (or 1S) respoonse I can see the bidding getting to 3D (responder being selfish) or 4H, but no higher.
So I suppose the answer to the question "how to stay out of slam" is to get a decent partner.
So I suppose the answer to the question "how to stay out of slam" is to get a decent partner.
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Posted 2009-October-11, 07:10
How to stay out of slam?
Stop in 4H. Who has extras? Who sees a big double fit with controls?
Stop in 4H. Who has extras? Who sees a big double fit with controls?
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Posted 2009-October-11, 07:30
gnasher, on Oct 10 2009, 05:33 PM, said:
I can't.
1♥-2♦
3♣-3♥
3♠-4♦
4♥-pass
is about as optimistic an auction as I can think of.
1♥-2♦
3♣-3♥
3♠-4♦
4♥-pass
is about as optimistic an auction as I can think of.
Heh, not everyone is good at bridge. I just meant I could see people overbidding with a nice 17 or cuebidding a club void etc etc. Seems like the type of hand people get overboard on.
FWIW I think north should bid 4H over 3S if not playing serious/non serious, which feels weird with 3 first round controls but the round suit holdings are just so terrible and theres not enough meat imo. I agree even if he cuebids south can sign off.
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