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#1 User is offline   jallerton 

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Posted 2009-October-18, 04:02

Scoring: IMP

1 P 1 2
2 4 4 P
P 5 P P
dbl P P P


1 = not a weak NT, no 5-card major, not 4-4 in the minors (i.e. natural, or 15+ balanced)
2 = promises four spades

10 of spades lead, Ace, King, low
low diamond, low, queen, ace
2 of spades, ruff, {random middle spade pip}
10 of diamonds, low,....

Ruff it or run it?
Why?
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Posted 2009-October-18, 04:16

Ruff it, if you had A stiff and more than one heart, wouldn't you lead it to get your ruff ?

Play a trump, if trumps are 2-1 and W is 4225/4135 you're in good shape here. If E had 6/5 he wouldn't have stood the double and would have bid 5, I suspect W has 1098x, Ax, AJ, AJxxx or similar.
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Posted 2009-October-18, 07:01

Cyberyeti, on Oct 18 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

Ruff it, if you had A stiff and more than one heart, wouldn't you lead it to get your ruff ?

Play a trump, if trumps are 2-1 and W is 4225/4135 you're in good shape here. If E had 6/5 he wouldn't have stood the double and would have bid 5, I suspect W has 1098x, Ax, AJ, AJxxx or similar.


West with 3 aces and 4135 (1098x, A, AJx, AJxxx) might have bid more than 2 or might have bid 5
Is West not 3 times as likely to hold 1098x, Ax, Ax, AJxxx, if you assume he has this distribution?
Would West bid differently without the jack of or East with the jack?

Running the ten looks right to me.

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Posted 2009-October-18, 08:02

rhm, on Oct 18 2009, 08:01 AM, said:

Cyberyeti, on Oct 18 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

Ruff it, if you had A stiff and more than one heart, wouldn't you lead it to get your ruff ?

Play a trump, if trumps are 2-1 and W is 4225/4135 you're in good shape here. If E had 6/5 he wouldn't have stood the double and would have bid 5, I suspect W has 1098x, Ax, AJ, AJxxx or similar.


West with 3 aces and 4135 (1098x, A, AJx, AJxxx) might have bid more than 2 or might have bid 5
Is West not 3 times as likely to hold 1098x, Ax, Ax, AJxxx, if you assume he has this distribution?
Would West bid differently without the jack of or East with the jack?

Running the ten looks right to me.

Rainer Herrmann

Yes, but E might not have played low on the 10. a tad embarrassing if declarer has the second diamond and partner now has to ruff with say doubleton KQ of trumps.
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Posted 2009-October-18, 08:32

Cyberyeti, on Oct 18 2009, 09:02 AM, said:

rhm, on Oct 18 2009, 08:01 AM, said:

Cyberyeti, on Oct 18 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

Ruff it, if you had A stiff and more than one heart, wouldn't you lead it to get your ruff ?

Play a trump, if trumps are 2-1 and W is 4225/4135 you're in good shape here. If E had 6/5 he wouldn't have stood the double and would have bid 5, I suspect W has 1098x, Ax, AJ, AJxxx or similar.


West with 3 aces and 4135 (1098x, A, AJx, AJxxx) might have bid more than 2 or might have bid 5
Is West not 3 times as likely to hold 1098x, Ax, Ax, AJxxx, if you assume he has this distribution?
Would West bid differently without the jack of or East with the jack?

Running the ten looks right to me.

Rainer Herrmann

Yes, but E might not have played low on the 10. a tad embarrassing if declarer has the second diamond and partner now has to ruff with say doubleton KQ of trumps.


Yeah, and if East does not have the jack of , a tad embarrassing if declarer has QJ of and partner has to ruff with say doubleton KQ of trumps instead of putting up the king and shoot a club back through declarer.

Rainer Herrmann
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