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Hand from today on BBO An opponent saved me from my stupidity

#1 User is offline   W Kovacs 

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Posted 2010-August-27, 13:01

Scoring: IMP

1C*-(P)-1S-(P)
2S*-(P)-3C*-(P)
3D*-(P)-3NT*-(P)
4S-(P)-P-(5H)!
DBL-AP


There were mistakes made on both sides of the hand. Mine was less eggregious, as no other tables bid the slam.

I was sitting East on this deal. My partner and I play Berkowitz and Manley Precision. So 1C was a big hand. 2S set trumps and asked p for trump length and controls. 3C showed 5 spades to one of the top 3 (meaning a trump loser). 3D asked for diamond controls. 3NT should have screamed 2nd round control, but I can't count, apparently, and read it as third round control. So I signed off in the Spade game.

The rest of the auction should have gone:

4C*-(P)-4S*-(P)
6S-AP

4C = control in clubs; 4S = 2nd round control

I have no idea why South felt it necessary to open his mouth. On a previous hand, he bid hearts three times with a 12 count and only 5 hearts, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Partner left the double in, and when it was all over, 5H was down 7 doubled, for a tidy 14 IMPS. More than if we bid slam, but slam still would have been a top.

I just thought everyone might like to see this one.
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Posted 2010-August-27, 14:38

W Kovacs, on Aug 27 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

I just thought everyone might like to see this one.

why?
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Posted 2010-August-27, 16:02

Justin beat me to it, what on earth is interesting about an ancient relays combined with miscounting steps and idiotic opponents?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-August-28, 00:32

To sidetrack the thread a little bit (as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, anyway): I have never quite understood the benefit in Precision of an immediate trump raise by opener asking for suit length and quality. What does opener do with support if he is not immediately interested in those things? And even if he is interested, is it worth wasting a whole level of bidding in a GF auction just to find out?
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Posted 2010-August-28, 00:54

"What does opener do with support if he is not immediately interested in those things?"

He makes some other bid. The old Alpha, Beta and Gamma asks had a bit going for them.
Finally there is no need to be rude to the op. If you don't like or are not interested in his post, ignore it. There is no need to drive people away.
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Posted 2010-August-28, 00:55

The_Hog, on Aug 28 2010, 01:54 AM, said:

Finally there is no need to be rude to the op. If you don't like or are not interested in his post, ignore it. There is no need to drive people away.

We cannot all be as kind and gentle and sweet as you Ron :P
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Posted 2010-August-28, 10:23

JLOGIC, on Aug 28 2010, 07:55 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Aug 28 2010, 01:54 AM, said:

Finally there is no need to be rude to the op. If you don't like or are not interested in his post, ignore it. There is no need to drive people away.

We cannot all be as kind and gentle and sweet as you Ron :)

What is he smoking? Seems like good stuff, he transformed into a puppy! :P
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Posted 2010-August-30, 16:12

The hand is a Control ask bid as you are semibalanced, 1NT, 2D shows 3 controls, then bid 2 spades some options as reponse are 3NT shows the given hand, 2NT shows the hand but without spade quality, 3S shows AKxxx spades without side kings and shortage, 4S shows AKxxx without side kings and no shortage.
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Posted 2010-August-30, 16:39

JLOGIC, on Aug 27 2010, 03:38 PM, said:

W Kovacs, on Aug 27 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

I just thought everyone might like to see this one.

why?

The thing I am interested in is how long (assuming this was in MBC) did North stick around as South's partner ;) ?
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Posted 2010-August-30, 16:52

Am I reading the auction wrong here? It looks like it was NORTH who bid 5H, not that it matters, crazy stuff happens all the time in the MBC.
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Posted 2010-August-31, 08:03

neilkaz, on Aug 30 2010, 05:39 PM, said:

JLOGIC, on Aug 27 2010, 03:38 PM, said:

W Kovacs, on Aug 27 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

I just thought everyone might like to see this one.

why?

The thing I am interested in is how long (assuming this was in MBC) did North stick around as South's partner <_< ?

Not very long at all. He made a comment along the lines of "I can't play this way" and left immediately after the opening lead. At least he was nice about his parting shot.

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He makes some other bid.

Exactly. It is very rare when partner and I actually use the alpha accept. Usually opener shows his own 5 card suit or bids NT, then supports on the next round. The alpha acceptance is instant slam interest. At least for us.
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