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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2010-September-07, 10:08

Scoring: IMP

P - (1♦) - ?


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Posted 2010-September-07, 10:12

I pass, its their hand anyway, no need to alert them of anything.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 10:23

Well I'd bid 2C with xxx xx ATx AQJ9x so I don't see why I wouldn't do it here. My hand/diamonds are not good enough for me to want to pass in order to try to show both minors later, I'm happy to show my clubs and get a good lead in/possibly find a good save/make in clubs/ mess up their auction with 1-1 in the majors opposite a passed partner.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 10:59

I overcall 2♣ so the usual can happen - LHO being light and making a negative double with 3-5 in the majors and his partner having 4 of the right one.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 11:11

Can't pass, even vulnerable opposite a passed hand. It is too important to take away the 1-level.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 11:15

jdonn, on Sep 7 2010, 11:59 AM, said:

I overcall 2♣ so the usual can happen - LHO being light and making a negative double with 3-5 in the majors and his partner having 4 of the right one.

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Posted 2010-September-07, 11:39

at these colors I pass; at any other I start with 2♣ to inject some difficulty into their auction
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Posted 2010-September-07, 11:43

JLOGIC, on Sep 7 2010, 11:23 AM, said:

Well I'd bid 2C with xxx xx ATx AQJ9x so I don't see why I wouldn't do it here. My hand/diamonds are not good enough for me to want to pass in order to try to show both minors later, I'm happy to show my clubs and get a good lead in/possibly find a good save/make in clubs/ mess up their auction with 1-1 in the majors opposite a passed partner.

I take you didn't miss the I in front of MP well as Vul=N/S with Dealer = N(your partner)?
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Posted 2010-September-07, 11:44

easy 2♣ at any vul.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 14:17

Me too.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 15:00

Hi Gnome hope you had a good tourney.

Maybe I've been on these forums too long but the other thread looks like a totally obvious pass / 4♥ to me and this hand is a clear 2♣ call.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 15:13

I passed on the actual hand, although regretted it when thinking about how difficult 1♦ - (2♣) auctions can be. My intent was to come in later with a bid showing both minors (although I take Justin's point that the hand is not good enough for that action). As it happens, I didn't get the opportunity, so it all worked out. At the other table, this hand overcalled 2♣ (good), but then jumped to 5♣ over partner's good raise and went for a number. I think the problem was in the valuation, given partner is a passed hand.
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Posted 2010-September-07, 15:57

Echognome, on Sep 7 2010, 04:13 PM, said:

I passed on the actual hand, although regretted it when thinking about how difficult 1♦ - (2♣) auctions can be. My intent was to come in later with a bid showing both minors (although I take Justin's point that the hand is not good enough for that action). As it happens, I didn't get the opportunity, so it all worked out. At the other table, this hand overcalled 2♣ (good), but then jumped to 5♣ over partner's good raise and went for a number. I think the problem was in the valuation, given partner is a passed hand.

And that diamonds are not breaking, and that you are getting tapped right away probably...
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Posted 2010-September-07, 16:47

jdonn, on Sep 7 2010, 02:57 PM, said:

And that diamonds are not breaking, and that you are getting tapped right away probably...

Please give me the credit that I take some things as given...
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Posted 2010-September-08, 02:32

With the vulnerability reversed I'd probably overcall 4♣, now it's a simple 2♣ imo.
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