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Bidding problem or maybe not a problem?

#1 User is offline   peachy 

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Posted 2010-September-08, 11:50



Online IMPs, all players experts or close, 2/1, none vul.
Partner opens 1C in second seat.

(P) 1C (P) 1D
(1NT) P (2H) ? 1NT was explained "majors"

Agree with 1D?
What is your bid?
What is your plan?

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Step 2:
I bid 3H, lefty passed, partner bid 3NT.
What now?
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Posted 2010-September-08, 12:06

2S
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Posted 2010-September-08, 12:10

I would have started with 2C inverted, to set up being able to ask for CQ+aces on the next round. I don't have a solution to finding out about partner's diamond length or strength to be sure 7 is safe. I all likelihood I will gamble on 7 if I get 2+Q.

I am not at all sure that 2C will be a majority choice.
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Posted 2010-September-08, 12:20

Q1) if 2 is not a SJS, yes

Q2) well you have lots of choices here 2,3,3,4,3 if it is forcing,4 if it is forcing, 5, & 5. Well let's dispense with 3,4,5,& 5. Doubt exists about 3 & 4 being forcing (to me anyway). 5 & 5 are too unilateral and should show less strong(5) or more distributional(5,i.e. more ). So that leaves the majors. 2 might be taken as natural. 3 might be taken as stopper showing. 3 should be initially stopper showing. 4 should be a splinter for (but maybe a self splinter). IMO you can reduce it to 3 & 4. The advantage of 3 is that you might be able to qbid 4 over 4 or 4 but you will be strapped over 5 or 5 altho a qbid at that point will be grand seeking. 4 leaves you in a less descriptive position. I would choose 3

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Posted 2010-September-08, 12:26

peachy, on Sep 8 2010, 11:50 AM, said:

Agree with 1D?

Yes, but this is an example of why we have adopted SJS for 2D/1C and for 2S/1H. (Mike Lawrence's follow-ups).

These two 1/1 auctions are overloaded without the SJS's.
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Posted 2010-September-08, 12:38

Siegmund, on Sep 8 2010, 12:10 PM, said:

I would have started with 2C inverted, to set up being able to ask for CQ+aces on the next round. I am not at all sure that 2C will be a majority choice.

Yeh, if going that route we can't have 1C-4C as Minorwood because it is more useful as a 6+ card preempt; so 2C was necessary to set trumps first. If the Diamonds were solid, I would even prefer 2C to using our SJS.
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Posted 2010-September-08, 12:49

I'd bid 4 if I was sure it is forcing, but since I am not, I'll try 2
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Posted 2010-September-08, 13:59

2S looks good, but I wonder how it will help me get to 6/7 correct minor.
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Posted 2010-September-08, 15:10

Siegmund, on Sep 8 2010, 02:10 PM, said:

I would have started with 2C inverted, to set up being able to ask for CQ+aces on the next round. I don't have a solution to finding out about partner's diamond length or strength to be sure 7 is safe. I all likelihood I will gamble on 7 if I get 2+Q.

I agree with this, unless I can ask CQ+aces on my first bid.
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Posted 2010-September-09, 15:05

Same as Bradley. First bid = 4, ace ask in clubs, assuming the open shows 3+. But if it could be 2 I think I start with 1.

On the given start, 4 to ace ask in diamonds. If I delay another round, the opps are likely to be at the 4 level.
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