[jillybean]

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MP

[mikl_plkcc]

Redouble for sure

[the hog]

3H. Certainly not xx, which denies a fit in my book and allows the opponents to come in cheaply with Spades

[jillybean]

mikl_plkcc, on 2012-May-23, 22:48, said:

Redouble for sure

For me, xx says no fit.

[ArtK78]

2♥ is enough.

[Statto]

3♥. We have excellent shape and prime cards in the right places. And there's just a suggestion if we don't bid high enough that opps may be able to find a 4♠ game, as it could be a double fit for both sides.

[Codo]

3 ♥, if the hearts split 3-2 my hand is golden.

[han]

I think that this hand would have been worth 3H without the double, but in competition it is very important to jump raise with such an unbalanced hand (and 4-card support). I'd rather bid 4H than 2H.

[Fluffy]

4♥ weak 6-4 is what first comes to mind, but our ODR is pretty low for a 6-4, and its MPs after all, 3♥ might not be so bad.

At IMPs given that I have a shot at game opposite ♥Kxxxx and out bidding less than 4♥ would be so weak.

[dkham]

Perhaps I've been egged on by the other comments, but I think we can bid 4♥ here.

Hopefully partner agrees it doesn't have the same meaning as it would without the takeout double.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

For the 4H bidders, how about showing 10 cards with a 4C - double jump .

I've been told that the CWNN ( convention with no name ) is still ON over 1S or DBL interference .

[jillybean]

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Here's the full hand, I got lucky this time.

[SteveMoe]

The 2-2 ♣ split (40% or 3:2 against making) makes 10 tricks. MLTC is 6+9--> 9 tricks unless something good happens in ♣ or ♥ (partner could have the ♥J).

On values I think the rebid is 3♥.

Playing support doubles, a redouble is 3 card support.

[dkham]

You were lucky that hearts and clubs split evently. But then if they don't, then opponents can often make 4♠, so bidding 4♥ directly still works well.

[mikl_plkcc]

For me, xx shows a fit show I xx.

[Phil]

Very lucky game, especially on the auction. Agree with bidding 3♥ instead of four.

You can play redouble as three card support, or some strong hand (along with a structure to show various 3 and 4 card raises), but xx should never be four card support under any sensible method.

[Cyberyeti]

Stiff Q♣ will also do. Stiff small club you're -1 but 3♠ now makes, so looks like 4♥ is pretty sensible unless both suits misbehave and you push them into a making 4♠ they weren't bidding.

[phil_20686]

I think 3H is enough here.

You can also think about playing some `stuff' here, since the double gives you extra options. In particular, I think with xx = good hand, no fit, you can use 2N to be the "good" heart raise. Or you can use 2S in the same vein, as you wish.

I think there is real benefit to differentiating between the strongish and defensive 3H and the offensive 3H. This will help partner in the not uncommon situation that lho bids 4S.

[gszes]

we need to make life as difficult for the opps
as possible. If we have a large heart fit (and
p is minimum) we have no defense against 4s. I
see no problems with bidding 4h right now since
I need so little for 4h to make and it also has
the advantage of being very preemptive.

I reserve xx here to show heart support and 16+.
This helps show the difference between very
distributional hands like our current one and
hands with a lot of power. p knows our hand type
and will take that into consideration if the vul
opps compete further.

[han]

Seeing this hand again I think I like 4H, and I think you did well to bid it.