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如何叫上满贯?哪门花色?

#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2012-December-23, 18:31

View Postpatroclo, on 2012-December-21, 15:27, said:


How to bid this slam and what suit.
east dealer


东家发牌。
问题:
如何叫上满贯?哪门花色?
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Posted 2012-December-24, 21:10

哈哈打44将的6D,叫牌过程也是在开叫人再叫2N后加叫3C,开叫人3N,应叫人拉出4D,这样过程看看大家有意见没?
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Posted 2012-December-24, 23:12

如果开1d:1D-1H-2NT-3D-3NT-4D-4H-4S-5D-6D。4D低花木,4S问将Q。
如果是直接开2nt:2nt-3d-3h-4d-4s-5s-6d。4s双套关键张问叫处理,可否?
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Posted 2012-December-25, 00:37


4满贯兴趣,4NT问关键张,51个,南欲5止叫,北有余力,加至6.
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Posted 2012-December-25, 03:02

View Postpatroclo, on 2012-December-21, 15:27, said:


How to bid this slam and what suit.
east dealer

东家发牌。
问题:
如何叫上满贯?哪门花色?


个人见解如下:

1——1
2nt----3* (沃尔夫止叫信号)
3nt**--4*** (3nt=否认4张♠和3张 ,4=低花木)
4****-5***** (4=1/4关键张,5=queen问叫)
5----6 (5=否认Q)

一家之言,仅供参考。
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Posted 2012-December-25, 03:29

D满贯。但1C开叫后,几乎不可能叫出D满贯。
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Posted 2012-December-25, 21:07

看了4家牌都知道开叫1D立刻就可以找到D的配合,但是请问在你不知道哪个花色有配合的前提下选择开叫1D而非1C的理由是什么
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Posted 2012-December-26, 05:01

View Postlycier, on 2012-December-25, 03:02, said:

东家发牌。
问题:
如何叫上满贯?哪门花色?


个人见解如下:

1——1
2nt----3* (沃尔夫止叫信号)
3nt**--4*** (3nt=否认4张♠和3张 ,4=低花木)
4****-5***** (4=1/4关键张,5=queen问叫)
5----6 (5=否认Q)

一家之言,仅供参考。

这个3不是沃尔夫止叫信号吧?沃尔夫示弱叫不是应该叫3逼同伴(开叫人)叫到3吗?
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Posted 2012-December-26, 05:02

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看了4家牌都知道开叫1D立刻就可以找到D的配合,但是请问在你不知道哪个花色有配合的前提下选择开叫1D而非1C的理由是什么

按5542的开叫原则,是不是应该开叫1呢?
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Posted 2012-December-26, 12:42

[quote name='madongjun' timestamp='1356519672' post='692339']
这个3不是沃尔夫止叫信号吧?沃尔夫示弱叫不是应该叫3逼同伴(开叫人)叫到3吗?


看来东方没有细致看书学习过,需要学习哦。不然越来越分歧多。
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Posted 2012-December-26, 23:43

View Postmadongjun, on 2012-December-26, 05:02, said:

按5542的开叫原则,是不是应该开叫1呢?

按你的意思所有3244/2344/4324/3424全部都要开叫1D,换句话说只要DC均为4张时都要开叫1D?
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Posted 2012-December-27, 04:38

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按你的意思所有3244/2344/4324/3424全部都要开叫1D,换句话说只要DC均为4张时都要开叫1D?

3244/2344/4342/3442/,均开叫1,我是这样理解的。
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Posted 2012-December-27, 05:19

看来东方没有细致看书学习过,需要学习哦。不然越来越分歧多。


我确信我认真看了上册100页和下册79页有关沃尔夫示弱叫的内容(和我理解的一样)。如果沃尔夫止叫信号是另外一个东东,我承认我没有仔细看过(没有找到)。
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Posted 2012-December-27, 10:15

View Postmadongjun, on 2012-December-27, 04:38, said:

3244/2344/4342/3442/,均开叫1,我是这样理解的。

就拿这副S家的牌面来说 ,SK换成CK,你也坚持开1D吗
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Posted 2012-December-27, 11:07

View Postmadongjun, on 2012-December-27, 05:19, said:

看来东方没有细致看书学习过,需要学习哦。不然越来越分歧多。


我确信我认真看了上册100页和下册79页有关沃尔夫示弱叫的内容(和我理解的一样)。如果沃尔夫止叫信号是另外一个东东,我承认我没有仔细看过(没有找到)。


唉,您先最好别确信,3逼局正式沃尔夫止叫信号里的组成部分,不要望文生义。这些我都讲课都讲了,我不知道怎样让你明白啊。
这个约定叫是地道的专家级牌手工具。也许难为你了。
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Posted 2012-December-27, 18:34

我觉得这不是讨论问题的方式,我不会再对什么沃尔夫止叫信号发表我的意见。我只是看了书,所谓专家方式我没有看到,我也确实不是专家。
其实只要说:
沃尔夫止叫信号中,
1\3C 逼叫到 3D;
2\3D逼局。
我也没有那么不理解。
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Posted 2012-December-27, 18:37

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就拿这副S家的牌面来说 ,SK换成CK,你也坚持开1D吗

这样的话,我也许会计划一个逆叫的进程,当五张看待,先开叫1(也符合5542的开叫规则),再逆叫2
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Posted 2012-December-27, 18:51

低花木因为问叫起步空间相对节约,做0314或1430回答并无多大差异吧。心烛老师低花木按0314回答4S,自然是逼叫到5d的,4nt并不止叫吧?怎不选择4nt作为Q问叫,5c作为K问叫?难道是5d作K问叫?另外,有朋友直接2nt开叫的吗?假如开2nt,后续完整进程又是?谢谢!
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Posted 2012-December-27, 19:22

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Posted 2012-December-27, 20:07

View Postlipeng2076, on 2012-December-27, 18:51, said:

低花木因为问叫起步空间相对节约,做0314或1430回答并无多大差异吧。心烛老师低花木按0314回答4S,自然是逼叫到5d的,4nt并不止叫吧?怎不选择4nt作为Q问叫,5c作为K问叫?难道是5d作K问叫?另外,有朋友直接2nt开叫的吗?假如开2nt,后续完整进程又是?谢谢!


问得真痛快!冷不丁一看,吓我一跳,以为又昏头樟脑了。18p也有只有2个Ace的时候,应叫人知道满贯无望了;但这时候应叫人为了最大限度得分,而选择最后定约就很有考量了:选择低花进局,只得到一个局分;选择4nt结果超一,就会比局分多两枚赢墩分!
有了这个低花满贯终止装置,使我们弥补了本身的缺陷。这也是近些年来,外国专家们苦心研究的杰作。希望我们多多思考,我心里也有一些顾虑。
真让人高兴啊。

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