[JLOGIC]

hrothgar, on 2013-January-22, 07:26, said:

MOSCITO auction

1♣ - (Pass) - 1♦ - (1♠)
2♥ - (2♠) - 4♣ - (P)
4♥

I don't think I'd find the slam

The 1♦ response establishes an absolute GF.
The 1♠ overcall breaks relays

2♥ is natural and 4♣ is fit showing.

With a void opposite partner's suit, it doesn't seem right for opener to push for slam
Responder doesn't have enough to go looking.

Arguable, South could do more

The spade hook looks to be on.
North should have either the Ace or the King of Hearts for the 4♣ bid.
The only big danger is a third round spade loser which you should be able to ditch on a long diamond.

Could be that South should just bid six

Yeah richard I think south would definitely do more assuming the fit jump shows 4 hearts. Hxxx of hearts and out is a good slam already (after the 1S overcall). If north promised a heart honor south could basically just bid slam.

[mycroft]

Asking bids come up this time.

1♣-1♠-(X) (GF with clubs)
2♥-(2♠)-3♣ (♥Qxx+ or xxxx+, 3+ controls, thanks for the extra space, opps)
3♦-3♠ (third round diamond control, so xx (the J is a bonus, but I don't think it matters)
5♣-5♦ (we've agreed hearts; can't be natural, so ERKB; one key)
6♥ (whoa!)

It's a bit aggressive, much more comfortable with the fourth heart and the ♦J. I can see us chickening out (especially because I'm only 99% convinced that 5♣ won't get passed).

[antonylee]

Same issue about 5♣ here... it should be exclusion but who knows?
1♣-1♥ (1♠) (Polish; 7+ 4+♥)
2♦ (2♠) 3♣ (18+ 3+♥; 9-11 4♥5+♣)
3♥-4♣ (sets trumps; serious cue)
5♣-5♦ (ERKCB, 1/4)
6♥ (the spade hook is marked and partner has a doubleton)

If I don't feel confident that 5♣ won't be passed jumping to 6 (opposite 9-11...) doesn't sound crazy either.

[straube]

mycroft, on 2013-January-22, 12:22, said:

Asking bids come up this time.

1♣-1♠-(X) (GF with clubs)
2♥-(2♠)-3♣ (♥Qxx+ or xxxx+, 3+ controls, thanks for the extra space, opps)
3♦-3♠ (third round diamond control, so xx (the J is a bonus, but I don't think it matters)
5♣-5♦ (we've agreed hearts; can't be natural, so ERKB; one key)
6♥ (whoa!)

It's a bit aggressive, much more comfortable with the fourth heart and the ♦J. I can see us chickening out (especially because I'm only 99% convinced that 5♣ won't get passed).

Nice auction but could you revise because I don't think RHO will double 1S and you won't get that extra space after the raise. I know I'm being picky but I'm trying to be fair.

[rbforster]

Silent Club:

1♣-1♦-(1♠) strong; most 0-7 or some GFs
2♥-(2♠)-3♠ natural, NF; stopper?
3N-4♣ yes; cue agreeing hearts, 4+ support
4♦-4♥ cue; game
4N-5♥ 1430 RKC; 2 without
6♥-P

An awkward auction untangling our GF responding hand since we lost the 2 level cuebid. Pulling 3N confirms the big heart fit (4+), a natural club suit, and an unbalanced hand. Opener seems like he's worth another move over 4♥ what with the favorably placed spade honors opposite likely shortness given the opponents' bidding.

I'm not sure whether opener should do more than just a natural non-forcing 2♥ after the interference. My style is to generally downplay two suited hands until a fit is found, so I tend to take the low road and try to catch up later if things go well.

[nige1]

straube, on 2013-January-22, 01:25, said:

#13. You are South and dealer. All white. Imps. Your RHO will overcall 1S if available. Your LHO will raise to 2S if available. Still no DN. This deal was played by a local expert pair.

Jasmine ♣ amended to remove interference.
North ♠ J5 ♥ KT75 ♦ J9 ♣ AQ754: __ 1♠ 3♥
South ♠ AQ3 ♥ QJ862 ♦ AKQT8 ♣-: 1♣ 3♣ 6♥

• 1♣ = Art, 16+.
• 1♠ = Art, 8+, 4+ ♥.
• 3♣ = Exclusion key-ask.
• 3♥ = Art, 1 key.
• 6♥ = Nat.

Marks, IMO: 6♥ = 10, 5♥ = 7. 3N, 5♦ = 6. 6♦ = 5. Partscores = 1.

This post has been edited by nige1: 2013-February-06, 06:23

[antonylee]

The overcall is on the other side.

[Zelandakh]

Nige, if I am following your system correctly your auction will begin 1♣ - 1♠. Then East will not overcall so you get an uncontested auction.

[mycroft]

mycroft, on 2013-January-22, 12:22, said:

Asking bids come up this time. [auction to 6♥ elided]
It's a bit aggressive, much more comfortable with the fourth heart and the ♦J. I can see us chickening out (especially because I'm only 99% convinced that 5♣ won't get passed).

straube, on 2013-January-22, 12:44, said:

Nice auction but could you revise because I don't think RHO will double 1S and you won't get that extra space after the raise. I know I'm being picky but I'm trying to be fair.

Picky is fine, but why wouldn't they "overcall" spades? I would find it odd that RHO will show spades over 1♦, whether it is GF or not, or 1♥ "8-11", but not over a club GF. Maybe lefty won't "no-space" raise into an asking bid auction, though - that's reasonable.

1♣-1♠
2♥-3♦
...I don't know. 3♥ should be a trump quality ask, but it's not in our notes. If it switches back to "normal", we're going to continue:
3♥-4♣ and we may chicken out.
Maybe 5♥ after 3♦(trump ask)? Maybe 5♣? Either of those get us to slam, and we're even less comfortable about it than the first auction.

[straube]

Zelandakh, on 2013-January-23, 03:15, said:

Nige, if I am following your system correctly your auction will begin 1♣ - 1♠. Then East will not overcall so you get an uncontested auction.

Yeah, I can't follow what the Jasmine club's auction actually is. If North responds 1S or higher, it's uncontested. Please resubmit. Thanks.

[Siegmund]

In Malfoir, and possibly also Unassuming:

1C-1H (1S)
3H (19+ with 4+ hearts -- 16-18 with 4 hearts not possible) then cuebids.

It is not clear to me from the Unassuming notes online whether people still use a 2C rebid by opener on any 19+ here after 1S since the overcall consumed no space, or whether a natural strong jump is necessary.

As long as jump shifts are still game-forcing (they aren't in textbook Unassuming) I would consider 1H too, trusting the 18HCP over the 3 losers temporarily, becuase showing these 5-5s can be such a pain.

[Zelandakh]

Siegmund, on 2013-January-23, 23:09, said:

It is not clear to me from the Unassuming notes online whether people still use a 2C rebid by opener on any 19+ here after 1S since the overcall consumed no space, or whether a natural strong jump is necessary.

I am fairly sure they do. From what I understand of the UAC competitive logic, X would be takeout, 2♣ strong and other bids as without interference except xNT shows a stop and x♠ denies one.

[Kungsgeten]

straube, on 2013-January-22, 01:25, said:

You are South and dealer. All white. Imps. Your RHO will overcall 1S if available. Your LHO will raise to 2S if available. Still no DN. This deal was played by a local expert pair.

................J5
...............KT75
...............J9
...............AQ754
T42...........................K9876
943...........................A
42.............................7653
KJ832........................T96
...............AQ3
...............QJ862
...............AKQT8
...............void

Pass 2000
pass (0-7 or 17+) - 1D (8-16, 4+ hearts may be canapé) - (1S);
4C (void and 4+ support, strong hand)-4H;
4NT (RKC0314) - 5D;
6H (hoping for east to hold the spade king)

[Mbodell]

By system we get to 6♥N, at the table I forgot and we only get to 5♥N

By system:
1♣-1nt : 16+; gf, 8+ hcp, 2+ cts, 4+H
2♣-2♥ : relay; 5+C, 4H
2♠-3♣ : relay; 2=4=2=5 (or occ 1=4=1=7)
3♦-3♠ : relay; 3 controls
4♥-5♣ : wimpy cues; one of the top 2 in clubs and hearts
6♥

At table:
1♣-1nt : 16+; gf, 8+ hcp, 2+ cts, 4+H
2♣-2♥ : relay; 5+C, 4H
2♠-3♣ : relay; 2=4=2=5 (or occ 1=4=1=7)
3♦-3♠ : relay; 3 controls
4♥-4nt : wimpy cues; forgot wimpy is deny A or K not just A and showed A or K of clubs but neither top 2 hearts
5♥

[qplus10]

1♣2nt(11-13 balanced)
3♦3♥(stopper)
4nt rkcb for ♦ 5♦
6♥

[jack502]

1♣1♦(1♠)
2♥(2♠)3♥
3♠4♣
4♦4♥
4♠4nt
5♠6♥


1♦=gf
2♥=4+hearts.
lots of cues and 4nt rkcb.

[Zelandakh]

straube, did you change your result to 6♥ on this hand or stick with 4♥? FWiiW I think South is worth an extra try over 4♦. You have not shown any extras at all over the initial 1♣ opening that I can see.

[nige1]

antonylee, on 2013-January-22, 19:12, said:

The overcall is on the other side.

Zelandakh, on 2013-January-23, 03:15, said:

Nige, if I am following your system correctly your auction will begin 1♣ - 1♠. Then East will not overcall so you get an uncontested auction.

Jasmine ♣ (amended to remove interference).
North ♠ J5 ♥ KT75 ♦ J9 ♣ AQ754: __ 1♠ 3♥
South ♠ AQ3 ♥ QJ862 ♦ AKQT8 ♣-: 1♣ 3♣ 6♥

• 1♣ = Art, 16+.
• 1♠ = Art, 8+, 4+ ♥.
• 3♣ = Exclusion key-ask.
• 3♥ = Art, 1 key.
• 6♥ = Nat.

A bit agricultural

Marks, IMO: 6♥ = 10, 5♥ = 7. 3N, 5♦ = 6. 6♦ = 5. Partscores = 1.

[DinDIP]

Playing our version of SCAMP, a Moscito variant:
1C = 16+
... 1S = 8+, 4+H, 0-3S (so E might X as a stolen bid)
1N = relay. O would break with a minimum to show support and a SPL but this hand is both too strong and has a (near) solid source of tricks that can't be shown.
... 2H = 4H, 5+C
2S = relay. 4C would be a SPL, showing a hand too strong to break over 1S. we try to avoid relaying with a void but this hand still has the tricks that can't be shown.
... 3C = 2-4-2-5
3D = QP ask
... 3S = 6QP
4C = relay for DCB
... 4D = 0 or 4+QP (so AQ/AK/AKQ) in C
4H = relay
... 4N = 1-3QP in H, 0 or 4+ in S
6H

Note that this method of DCB can be bad when teller show 0 or 4+ in two suits and asker cannot tell at a safe level. Here, we'd be OK as asker could bid 5H over a 3S (=4-5QP) response. This asks for for just one top honour as asker could bid 4D to ask for 2+ honours in any 3+card suit and Hx in any doubleton. O doesn't need to make the same bid over the 3S response as he can bid 5H if teller shows 0 or 4+ in C and H and then shows the SK (so holding Kx xxxx xx AQxxx). Note that if teller has the HAK then he must have the CQ as his other QP so DCB will start differently.

Alternatively, O could bid 3H to ask for controls (A=2, K=1) and then bid 5H (same options, same logic).

David

[FM75]

OCP

1♣ - 2♣
2♥ - 3♣ 0-3 controls and Hxx, xxxx or better in ♥
3♠ - 4♣ 3rd round control.
4♥ - Would need very specific controls, missing 4 to look for slam. We know the ♠K is missing.