Hi,
I am reading Bridge Guys defensive signals and there are a couple of references to false carding under Lav and UDCA advantages : Reduces the possibility of false carding by declarer.
I have no idea what false carding is, could someone please explain.
tyia
jillybean
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false carding basic explanation needed
#1
Posted 2004-December-17, 23:30
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"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
#2
Posted 2004-December-18, 04:03
Hi!
false carding is the use of the equivalent small cards declarer has to make the opponentīs signals unclear.
A quick example is after 1NT-3NT, LHO leads ♦A, a suit where you hold QJ532, RHO opponent plays the 4 (an obvious discouraging), but its obvious for you, not for his partner, if you play the 5, RHO will not know where the 3 and the 2 lie, and can think his partner is making an encouraging signal.
Another common false card is after an Ace lead droping the queen with queen doubleton, to make opponentīs think you have no more cards there, ,note that sincee you donīt have the J, the Q is as 'smal'l to you as the 2 because it will never make a trick. (Except for some rare communication problems for defenders).
A good general rule, it doesnīt work always, but its a good aproach, is that when you want a suit to be continued you should 'encourage' your opponents, in teh same way they do, while if you donīt want that, you should do reversed.
Another example, opponents play UDCA, and LHO lead K agains a suit contract, where you have 752, and dummy has J63 you donīt want this suit to be continued, and when RHO plays the 8 (his smallest card), you pay the 7 (discouraging playing UDCA), RHO is missing the 5 and the 2 and will probably think you have the Ace.
false carding is the use of the equivalent small cards declarer has to make the opponentīs signals unclear.
A quick example is after 1NT-3NT, LHO leads ♦A, a suit where you hold QJ532, RHO opponent plays the 4 (an obvious discouraging), but its obvious for you, not for his partner, if you play the 5, RHO will not know where the 3 and the 2 lie, and can think his partner is making an encouraging signal.
Another common false card is after an Ace lead droping the queen with queen doubleton, to make opponentīs think you have no more cards there, ,note that sincee you donīt have the J, the Q is as 'smal'l to you as the 2 because it will never make a trick. (Except for some rare communication problems for defenders).
A good general rule, it doesnīt work always, but its a good aproach, is that when you want a suit to be continued you should 'encourage' your opponents, in teh same way they do, while if you donīt want that, you should do reversed.
Another example, opponents play UDCA, and LHO lead K agains a suit contract, where you have 752, and dummy has J63 you donīt want this suit to be continued, and when RHO plays the 8 (his smallest card), you pay the 7 (discouraging playing UDCA), RHO is missing the 5 and the 2 and will probably think you have the Ace.
#3
Posted 2004-December-18, 12:10
False carding, in the general sense, can also mean playing the card you are known to hold.
For example:
On the first round South plays a spade to the ♠J. When he cashes the ♠A West should drop the ♠Q, the card he is known to hold, and now South may finesse the ♠9 on the third round of the suit.
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For example:
On the first round South plays a spade to the ♠J. When he cashes the ♠A West should drop the ♠Q, the card he is known to hold, and now South may finesse the ♠9 on the third round of the suit.
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#4 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2004-December-18, 14:04
Very good post fluffy. Yes the general rule usually works.
#5
Posted 2004-December-18, 16:45
My english is pure but false carding is widther then previously explained , its generaly means play of a card that will mislead your opponent, this is usually not playing the card you would be taught to play in a begginers school. like playing K from KQ in third hand, or signaling you have even number of cards when you have odd number, or many other examples i could give. Its also include playing the card which reveal as little as possible for the opponents.
#6
Posted 2004-December-19, 07:59
Falsecarding is like psyching in cardplay. You fool opps and partner, but usually your partner won't get any harm from it. There are thousands of examples about falsecarding, but it's always the same principle: play a card which doesn't give the right signal to partner or declarer. This can both be about attitude or count, or whatever signal. You can encourage a suit which you don't have, to let declarer's hopes sink,...
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#7
Posted 2004-December-19, 10:11
against better players there's often an advantage when an opening lead is falsecarded... this doesn't always work, but if your opponent is a good player *and* if he thinks you're a good player, the worst it does is put him to a guess
was playing with phil as an op the other nite and led (i think) a 9 or 10... that shows 0 or 2 higher, and i had one higher... was my bad luck that both the lie of the cards and the quality of the declarer showed what a deceitful bastard i can be... btw, it might have worked against another player
was playing with phil as an op the other nite and led (i think) a 9 or 10... that shows 0 or 2 higher, and i had one higher... was my bad luck that both the lie of the cards and the quality of the declarer showed what a deceitful bastard i can be... btw, it might have worked against another player
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