[sceptic]

if you play texas transfers, NOT the south african way, but simple texas transfers

1NT - p - 4diamnod = transfer to hearts
1NT - p - 4 heart = transfer to spades



If you play 4 club is transfer to hearts and 4 diamond is transfer to spades, you can then play 4heart or 4 spades is to play by responder (I would like to know what advantages or disadvantages there are to this also)

my theory is if you also play 1NT - p - 4NT is quantative and 1NT - p - 5NT is quantative to grand slam.

can you change the meanings 1NT - p - 4!S now becoms a RKCB ask and 1NT - p - 4NT is still Quantative or vice versa. (or am I thinking to much)

[Free]

I usually play a similar thing: 4♣ Gerber, 4♦/♥ transfer, 4♠ quantitative NT for grand, 4NT quantitative for small.

Advantages of not accepting the transfer could be if you don't have any forks, so your partner can still play and hopefully he can take advantage of the lead. However, the advantages are so infrequent that I don't think it's a good convention...

[inquiry]

I play 4♠ as quantitative but showing both minors, as opposed to immediate 4NT which is 5332 or 4333 and quantitative (generally with 3-3 in the majors). This can get you to some nice 6 of a minor contracts that play better than 6NT and is useful if you have not good way to show minor two suiter and strong hand.

As far as 4H and 4S to play, the theory goes if you keep the hand wtih the long suit hidden, they might not know what suits they have to cash (they can't see where your shortness is). On the other hand, the hand with the long suit is not generally the one you want the lead coming up too. So even if you play S. AFrican transfers you will seldom use the direct 4H and 4S bid. A second advantage is partner may forget and pass 1N-4H, but he is not going to forget 1N-4C or 1N-4D

Ben

[Flame]

sceptic, on Jan 3 2005, 11:04 AM, said:

if you play texas transfers, NOT the south african way, but simple texas transfers

1NT - p - 4diamnod = transfer to hearts
1NT - p - 4 heart = transfer to spades



If you play 4 club is transfer to hearts and 4 diamond is transfer to spades, you can then play 4heart or 4 spades is to play by responder (I would like to know what advantages or disadvantages there are to this also)

my theory is if you also play 1NT - p - 4NT is quantative and 1NT - p - 5NT is quantative to grand slam.

can you change the meanings 1NT - p - 4!S now becoms a RKCB ask and 1NT - p - 4NT is still Quantative or vice versa. (or am I thinking to much)

intresting idea, but i doublt its more importent then to play from responder's side.

[pclayton]

When I play regular Texas, I play the 4♠ call the same as Ben does; quanititative, but emphasizing the minors; usually 4-4. Opener's pull to 5 of a minor is not a signoff; rather a suggestion to play 6 with a fit; the bid should not be made on Jxxx or Qxxx; I've heard suggested that QTxx is the minimum. 5 of a major is undiscussed, but makes sense as a 5 bagger. 5N should be a pick a minor and 6 of a minor should show at least a good 5 card suit.

[helene_t]

Hey Free, it is not necesary to have different quantis for small and grand. Just bid 4♠ and if p is minimal, he bids 4NT. You can now pass, or bid 6NT if you were looking for grand. I like Ben's idea better.

I play 4♣ for both majors.

[Gerben47]

Me too:

4C both majors
4red transfer
4S Blackwood
4NT Quantitative for small slam
5NT Quantitative for grand slam