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Lead V

Poll: Lead V (27 member(s) have cast votes)

3NT this time

  1. spade (9 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  2. ace of hearts (7 votes [25.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.93%

  3. queen (or other non-ace) of hearts (8 votes [29.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.63%

  4. diamond (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. club (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

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#21 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2013-May-14, 15:59

I thought this was the most interesting of all the threads you started Frances, I hope you will post the results and your thoughts on this problem.
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Posted 2013-May-16, 13:54

I thought this was an interesting lead problem of itself.
In BW, you don't get to find out what the full lie is, you should consider it as an abstract problem.
I think you should lead a heart, although I am torn between the ace and the queen.

That's a warning that the full hand is going to be a disappointment, because the only lead to beat it is a diamond (sorry). Codo was right, that you have to not give the 9th trick on the opening lead. At the table, they played in 4D at one table, and I played in 3NT at the other. LHO tried a club lead to be passive, but that didn't work, because their hands are:

9x
xx
K5xx
J10xxx

AJ8x
Kx
A10987
AQ

I leave it as an exercise for the reader how to make it on a black suit lead lead
(RHO made it easy by not inserting an honour when I led a spade from the dummy, but it's still cold anyway)

p.s. the king of spades lead would be interesting
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Posted 2013-May-18, 14:19

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2013-May-16, 13:54, said:


I leave it as an exercise for the reader how to make it on a black suit lead lead
(RHO made it easy by not inserting an honour when I led a spade from the dummy, but it's still cold anyway)



So RHO didn't have 9xx then.
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Posted 2013-May-18, 19:58

heart Q

Unless the heart K is trick 9 the downsides of leading the Q are few--

We do not lose out when p has the club A or KQ since the opps can't
run 9 tricks without clubs or spades. Leading the A can really be damaging
to the defense in many distributional cases u give up the heart K anyway
(except for those rare stiff K scenarios). Opps may be able to navigate
their way to 9 tricks via clubs/dia/heart K spade A. OUCH

I do not pin much hope the dia Q will win a trick but leading the heart A
will virtually guarantee it wont take one (JLOGIC).
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Posted 2013-May-19, 04:08

here's another layout when the HA is the winning lead:

QJx
xxx
J10xxx
Kx


A
Kxx
A98xx
AQxx

I'm not saying you should play for this, but just observing that it's not _only_ stiff king where it gains...
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Posted 2013-May-19, 04:13

Isn't 3N cold on that layout?

Edit: Ignore that, I've seen it now :P
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Posted 2013-May-19, 04:16

What does East discard on the second round of hearts?

Edit: I'll leave my reply for the next person who needs a hint
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Posted 2013-May-19, 06:28

Very nice, Frances.

But I think I will need to practice a little more before I will consistently make that obvious discard. ;)

I will need to practice a lot more before I can envision this on opening lead.

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