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#1 User is offline   Zloty 

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Posted 2014-February-28, 09:57






South reply?
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Posted 2014-February-28, 10:02

View PostZloty, on 2014-February-28, 09:57, said:


South reply?
IMO 6N = 10, 7 = 8, 6 = 7.
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Posted 2014-February-28, 10:11

What was the 3NT rebid? If it shows a one-suiter there is an argument for playing 4NT as RKCB. Assuming that is not the case our bid over 4NT is 5 showing Hx and a max. I feel like I must be the first poster ever to score a zero on Nige's scale. :blink:
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Posted 2014-February-28, 10:18

Indeed, what was 3NT? With that Diamond holding, it seems like an attempt to create disaster.
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Posted 2014-February-28, 10:44

View Postaguahombre, on 2014-February-28, 10:18, said:

Indeed, what was 3NT? With that Diamond holding, it seems like an attempt to create disaster.





Sorry for misclick on diagram. Bidding should be 1/2/3/4/?
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Posted 2014-February-28, 11:43

View PostZloty, on 2014-February-28, 10:44, said:

Sorry for misclick on diagram. Bidding should be 1/2/3/4/?

Please edit the original diagram or a lot more replies will be nonsense.
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Posted 2014-February-28, 11:45

View Postneilkaz, on 2014-February-28, 11:43, said:

Please edit the original diagram or a lot more replies will be nonsense.

It might be a good idea to stick in whether the 2 response is GF or not at the same time, since that would affect the meaning of a 3 rebid greatly.
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Posted 2014-February-28, 11:55

View PostZelandakh, on 2014-February-28, 11:45, said:

It might be a good idea to stick in whether the 2 response is GF or not at the same time, since that would affect the meaning of a 3 rebid greatly.

And also state whether a 2 rebid could be passed as is still played by a few.
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Posted 2014-February-28, 12:17

If 2 was game forcing, then partner has in my book denied a red suit ace, so I pass.
If 2 wasn't game forcing, it's harder.
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Posted 2014-February-28, 16:08

I'm bidding 5 unless I have Frances agreement.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2014-February-28, 16:43

I'm bidding 5becaus epartner is drunk if he think he is gonna sing me off with this monster.
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Posted 2014-March-01, 07:00

I am not sure of what approach is being used. I assume sayc. I would advance next with 5C. If I hear a D cue bid I'll take a shot at slam.
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Posted 2014-March-01, 07:21

It's awkward because I would not have bid this hand this way. I'd have jumped to 4 because 3 undervalues my hand. I would not worry about my partner passing after such strong bidding. would become trump by inference. My partner would then see the likely slam in and guide us to the appropriate contract.
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Posted 2014-March-01, 13:50

The 3nt rebid is very strange. 3s is better, showing 6 spades and 16+ points. However, the bidding has gone 3nt then 4nt which surely can't be anything other than blackwood so i would bid to show 2 aces or 3 keycards, whatever your system. Probably partner has 6 hearts.

View Postnige1, on 2014-February-28, 10:02, said:

IMO 6N = 10, 7 = 8, 6 = 7.

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Posted 2014-March-01, 13:52

The 2h reply shows 10+ points so it looks like there is a slam on here. My next bid would be 4nt

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South reply?

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Posted 2014-March-01, 23:15

View Postjmcilkley, on 2014-March-01, 13:52, said:

The 2h reply shows 10+ points so it looks like there is a slam on here. My next bid would be 4nt


Well, 4NT is silly here; P could have an ace (Jxx, AQJxx, QJ, Kxx) and you need to stop in
five, or he could have an ace and you're cold for 6S. (xxx, AQJxx, KQ, xxx). So if making
a certain bid doesn't let partner tell you what you need to know, don't make that bid.

Much of the discussion on hands like this depends on what the partnership agreements are.
If N could have passed a 2S rebid, so that S has to jump to 3S to create a game force, then
it's a whole different auction than if 2H is a game force, and frees up 3S not to show
HCP, but to show a solid suit.

Regardless, I bid 5C because I need partner to cooperate in the slam effort. Does he have
the two aces I'm looking for? Or just one? If it goes 5C - 5H; I know he doesn't have
the diamond ace, and I'll just bid 5S, knowing he is smart enough to trudge on with a
second-round diamond control. If his continuation is below 6H, I'll trot out 6H to see
if he thinks his hearts are good enough to play opposite something like this holding (Kx),
and to protect his potential Kxx diamond holding on opening lead (unless his continuation
was 5NT, in which case I raise to 6NT).
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Posted 2014-March-02, 03:39

4. To me, partner is showing a minimum 2-over-1 response and Blackwood doesn't tell me whether I have 1 red suit loser or 2--or in an outside case, maybe 3.

It will very likely not be zero.

And even if it's only one red loser, what about clubs?

I think slam is off here (or at best needs some luck) regardless of how many aces he has.

One final note: partner hasn't exactly shown hyper-enthusiasm from the trump suit either. Don't be surprised if there is a spade loser. Be disappointed, but not shocked.

Now... if your system is different, then maybe slam is on here. But I don't see any reason why it would be on, and find it extremely unlikely to be cold.
There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!
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Posted 2014-March-05, 22:32

View Postneilkaz, on 2014-February-28, 11:55, said:

And also state whether a 2 rebid could be passed as is still played by a few.


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