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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2014-November-16, 04:48

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Is this strong enough for you to bid 4♣ leaping Michaels?
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Posted 2014-November-16, 04:52

No not even close
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Posted 2014-November-16, 04:53

No not even close
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Posted 2014-November-16, 04:56

Close, well it depends what you consider close I suppose. One more good card and I think it would be fine.

However it is a good hand for a 2♠ overcall except perhaps the suit is on the poor side - but you can't have everything.
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Posted 2014-November-16, 05:58

No
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Posted 2014-November-16, 06:08

Big time no on leaping, very likely to turn into weaping should you do that. The fact partner is already a passed hand makes me a bit cautious. We could easily have a game facing a fit in S, if pard has 4 trumps especially. If they hold only 2 the 2 level may even become a problem if you are forced to ruff and lose control of the hand. Will we buy the contract? After all they could easily be gin for 10 tricks. While not exactly down the middle I think I would double 2H, partner is not passing under the H suit and this may lead to the best spot and does not give up on S completely and rates to land you in an 8 card fit at least when partner is weak and they don't compete in H. 2S is my second choice.
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Posted 2014-November-16, 06:39

I thought a 5-looser hand is ok for leaping michaels, isn't it?
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Posted 2014-November-16, 07:50

View Postkgr, on 2014-November-16, 06:39, said:

I thought a 5-looser hand is ok for leaping michaels, isn't it?

Asked, answered, then asked.
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Posted 2014-November-16, 08:15

Helene has discovered a way to increase her plus-count.
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Posted 2014-November-16, 08:37

View Postaguahombre, on 2014-November-16, 08:15, said:

Helene has discovered a way to increase her plus-count.


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Posted 2014-November-16, 08:54

View PostMrAce, on 2014-November-16, 08:37, said:

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Good 1

5-losers but you have only 1 intermediate T♠ unless partner has a well-fitting rock your going to lose a lot of tricks! And if partner has a rock a normal overcall will do.
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Posted 2014-November-16, 08:58

View Posthelene_t, on 2014-November-16, 04:53, said:

No not even close


but you're getting warmer.. :)

anyway, probably not when pard is a passed hand. Just 2♠ for me.
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Posted 2014-November-16, 12:31

View Poststeve2005, on 2014-November-16, 08:54, said:

5-losers but you have only 1 intermediate T♠ unless partner has a well-fitting rock your going to lose a lot of tricks! And if partner has a rock a normal overcall will do.


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Posted 2014-November-16, 12:40

View Postkgr, on 2014-November-16, 06:39, said:

I thought a 5-looser hand is ok for leaping michaels, isn't it?


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Posted 2014-November-16, 13:32

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Non passed partner and better intermediates...Is this strong enough for you to bid 4♣ leaping Michaels?
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Posted 2014-November-16, 13:41

kgr: it usually pays to be aggressive. I would bid on that yes.
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Posted 2014-November-17, 01:56

View Postkgr, on 2014-November-16, 13:32, said:

MP's

Non passed partner and better intermediates...Is this strong enough for you to bid 4♣ leaping Michaels?

A non passed partner becomes a CHO, IMO, when I abuse a toy. Turn the Spade nine into the Queen.
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