[ArtK78]

All Vul. IMP Pairs at a club. Partner opens 2♥ weak in first seat. You hold:

AQxxx
x
KQTxxx
x

What is your call?

[mike777]

nonexpert here


3d just too many chances for game here
plan on rebidding 3s over 3h
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Pls note much less chance for game if pard opens light hcp dist hands at the one level rather than 2 level.

[benlessard]

I think i can risk 2S because of my method.

We play an Ogust scheme after a 2M responses to a 2red preempt.

2red---2S--??

2NT= 0-1S (after that a new suit is not forcing)
3C = bad hand bad support (only xx in S)
3D = bad hand good support (Hx or xxx in S)
3H = good hand bad support
3S = good hand good support no shortness
3NT = good hand good support low shortness
4C = good hand good support high shortness
rest is voids.

[PhilG007]

ArtK78, on 2015-May-28, 22:15, said:

All Vul. IMP Pairs at a club. Partner opens 2♥ weak in first seat. You hold:

AQxxx
x
KQTxxx
x

What is your call?

4♥ Nothing ventured,nothing gained. On the assumption that partner has opened on a decent
suit,I have side suit tricks in ♠ and ♦ If partner has the A♣ a ruffing value
in that suit.

[MrAce]

Pass.

If all passes, 6-1 ♥ is not that bad to play at 2 level. Trying to find a spade or diamond fit is like invitation for disaster when no fit found or missed the suit that we have fit. To be able to stop before game is way too optimistic for my taste, even if we accidentally hit the 2-3 card instead of singleton or void.
If they bid over 2♥, we have a lot of defensive values even if their fit is clubs.
If it is doubled, we are in very good shape of asking pd to choose between spades and diamonds by redouble.

[mikeh]

I'm with Timo. I pass. I will run if LHO doubles and RHO sits....

[ArtK78]

At the table, I did pass. It turns out that my partner's 2♥ opening was a bit off center, in that he had a very flexible hand that some might even stretch to open one.

x
A98xxx
AJxx
xx

So, we scored up +140 when 12 tricks were available in diamonds.

Part of the problem was that my LHO did not balance with a good hand with clubs. I would bid 3♦ on my cards if 3♣ came back to me, and we may reach game.

[aguahombre]

The Rueful Rabbit had just learned about Leaping Michaels over weak-two bids, and...........

[Jinksy]

Wtp pass for me. If I bid 2♠ and hit partner with a max and three card support, I don't know how we're finding our way to 10 tricks.

I play all suit bids as forcing, though. Think I'd still pass if I didn't, but it makes the decision easier.

As for your partner's call, that looks like a 1♥ bid to me, or pass if that's too uncomfortable.

[WesleyC]

Automatic pass for me.

However, partner would've opened this hand 1H.

[fourdad]

I would like to see the whole hand. IMO the @H hand is a clear pass. Would pd then open 1D or would opps open?

The D fit is found easily after the original pass.

Having said that, my regular pds and I play 2NT as the only forcing bid over a weak 2, asking for a side feature. a rebid by wk 2 bidder ends the auction.

In this case, 3D over 2NT finds 5D.

[jodepp]

I would also pass 2♥ and not think twice about it. I also think the opening bid is insane - too much defense, inadequate suit. I'd open 1♥ but would understand a Pass while not agreeing with it.

This is the price one pays for random-ish preempts. Sometimes they punish your opponents, and sometimes they punish partner.

[aguahombre]

fourdad, on 2015-May-30, 05:37, said:

Having said that, my regular pds and I play 2NT as the only forcing bid over a weak 2, asking for a side feature. a rebid by wk 2 bidder ends the auction.

In this case, 3D over 2NT finds 5D.

I assume you are joking.

[nige1]

ArtK78, on 2015-May-28, 22:15, said:

All Vul. IMP Pairs at a club. Partner opens 2♥ weak in first seat. What is your call?
♠ A Q x x x ♥ x ♦ K Q T x x x ♣ x

IMO Pass = 10. 3♦ = 9. 2♠ = 8. 2N = 5. If partner opens 2♥ with ♠ x ♥ A x x x x x ♦ A J x x ♣ x x then you might reply differently or you might post the hands, hoping for BBF comments on partner's style

[case_no_6]

ArtK78, on 2015-May-28, 22:15, said:

All Vul. IMP Pairs at a club. Partner opens 2♥ weak in first seat. You hold:

AQxxx
x
KQTxxx
x

What is your call?

I don't pass, that is for sure. This hand has too much game potential to even consider that.

At IMPs, the first order goal is to avoid a big negative swing. The second order goal is to try to gain advantage on the hand. With a bonafide two suited hand, both goals are most likely to be realized by finding your proper strain quickly and as economically as possible. That won't happen by passing. And it won't happen by bidding 2S if the opponents compete to 3H or 4H.

3D solves the problem. If they bid 3H or 4H, I will try spades as cheaply as possible.

If you bid spades first, you will be forced to 1 level higher to show your diamonds. Also, you will distort your hand pattern - suggesting that spades are as long or longer than diamonds.

[zillahandp]

3d which is forcing, if not 2nt ogust if you play it if not then define your system better

[MrAce]

Where is Phil Clayton?

[Phil]

MrAce, on 2015-May-30, 18:44, said:

Where is Phil Clayton?

Lurking.

[mcphee]

First seat weak 2 does not have to be very good, pass and hope they balance. For the record you and partner might discuss what a weak 2 looks like:)

[PhilG007]

mcphee, on 2015-May-31, 06:10, said:

First seat weak 2 does not have to be very good, pass and hope they balance. For the record you and partner might discuss what a weak 2 looks like:)

The weak 2 can come in many guises. I've seen it opened on xxxxxx with 5 points. What the bidder seems to have forgotten is
the bid has a double purpose a) to suggest it as a possible trump suit b) to suggest a lead for partner if opponents buy the
contract. I certainly wouldn't encourage a lead holding the garbage above..