What is your bid here - show the fit, or the quite nice club suit, and is it clear?
Show 6m or 3M?
#1
Posted 2016-April-27, 01:23
What is your bid here - show the fit, or the quite nice club suit, and is it clear?
#2
Posted 2016-April-27, 02:06
#3
Posted 2016-April-27, 04:28
My preference is to raise now with the intention of bidding clubs later.
Bidding clubs first risks never showing heart support.
Rainer Herrmann
#4
Posted 2016-April-27, 06:26
#5
Posted 2016-April-27, 07:08
#6
Posted 2016-April-27, 07:13
#8
Posted 2016-April-27, 07:17
el mister, on 2016-April-27, 07:08, said:
Yes, certainly 3♣ as a fit jump is playable, and I play it, it is just that I think I would rather not voluntarily go that high on this hand.
#9
Posted 2016-April-27, 10:31
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#10
Posted 2016-April-27, 11:20
#11
Posted 2016-April-28, 00:09
Bid 2♣ to ask partner to further describe his hand. If he can support clubs,there could well be a slam on.
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
#12
Posted 2016-April-28, 03:12
I can't say I'm too keen on the idea of playing 1NT as a transfer to 2C, as has been suggested. This treatment rules out natural 1NT bids, which can be useful, but perhaps worse give oppo a wide range of options. E.g. Double of 1Nt followed by double of 2C= penalties, pass followed by double = values.
#13
Posted 2016-April-28, 09:19
#14
Posted 2016-April-28, 10:39
GrahamJson, on 2016-April-28, 03:12, said:
Transfers always give opponents an extra bite at the cherry. Yet they are used in many situations, because the transfer bidder believes that the benefits of a much fuller description (here allowing you to show both long clubs and heart support rather than having to choose just one), or allowing multiple ranges of strength to be shown, or putting the overcaller on lead, completely outweigh the extra bite for opponents.
#15
Posted 2016-April-28, 13:16
Of course, some of us old K-Sers would still play 1 NT as forcing in this situation showing the 9+ hand. If available, that would be my bid intending to bid 3 ♥ the next round. That sequence would be a slight overbid, but with the nice ♣s and ♠ shortness, I'll be a little aggressive.
#16
Posted 2016-April-28, 23:25
#17
Posted 2016-April-29, 06:59
If you have it av., show both, depending on req. a jump
in a new suit is a fit jump, I am not going into the discussion, if a
fit jump showes 4+ support or if 3 is sufficient, for us 3 is enough.
with kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#18
Posted 2016-April-29, 07:03
el mister, on 2016-April-27, 07:08, said:
Fit jumps are usually employed in contested auction, and if you like them,
you will use them in uncontested auction, if one player is a passed hand,
most oppossite a 4th hand opener, but I would say it will also work vs.
a 3rd hand opener.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#19
Posted 2016-April-29, 07:43
Bidding 3H is generally played as preemptive and without question promises at least 4 card (and usually exactly) heart support.
You don't have enough strength to take 2 bids, so showing the clubs is inadvisable. You need to get your heart support in now, particularly since it is not that unlikely that your LHO might raise spades to an uncomfortably high level. If that happens, partner will be in a much stronger position to make a good decision if partner knows about your heart support.
#20
Posted 2016-April-29, 14:10
Caitlynne, on 2016-April-29, 07:43, said:
Bidding 3H is generally played as preemptive and without question promises at least 4 card (and usually exactly) heart support.
You don't have enough strength to take 2 bids, so showing the clubs is inadvisable. You need to get your heart support in now, particularly since it is not that unlikely that your LHO might raise spades to an uncomfortably high level. If that happens, partner will be in a much stronger position to make a good decision if partner knows about your heart support.
I don't think that is the way to value this hand in support of hearts. 3 for a singleton & holding only 3 trumps is not right. Some people think 2 (with only three trumps) is too much. But this is a trick-source hand and should be evaluated in those terms -- taking into account the possible further competition by those other guys.
That is why it might be a good idea to show the side source and trump fit -- then let partner be our side's boss while at the same time gobbling up some of the opponents' space.