Advancer's 2C as artificial force
#1
Posted 2016-August-12, 05:22
I've recently seen two variants of this concept: one was suggested by one of the Italian pros (I think it was Duboin, but I'm not sure) in an article in a new bridge magazine (can't remember the name unfortunately; there was a link posted to it on Bridge Winners recently). The author suggested that advancer's 2C should switch place with the cue bid: (1D)--1H--(P)--2C would be a good heart raise or a general force, while the 2D cue bid would show clubs.
I saw the other variant on the Swedish Rimstedt twins juniors convention card: http://www.ecatsbrid...dt-Rimstedt.pdf They play after (1m)-1M-(P) that 2C is 10+ without major support (typically 5+ minor or NT invite+), and 2D+ are transfers.
Edit: The name of the magazine is Finesse: http://www.militos.org/finesse/
#2
Posted 2016-August-12, 10:51
i play an overcalling style where qtxxx and out is an overcall non-vul. i couple this with intermediate jump overcalls. this work very well for me - overcalls don't help the opponents during the play because you've not promised any values and on our strong hands we've got them off our chest immediately. personally i think weak jump overcalls are pretty useless and people just unthinkingly play them because they seem comparable to weak 2s.
#3
Posted 2016-August-12, 11:13
#4
Posted 2016-August-12, 11:27
i've found the opps often get into trouble after our jumps. considering we might have a shapely 12 count, they can still have a game on so feel the need to compete but are normally starting out at the 3 level. they often feel their best option is to make a sporting pass of a negative double and end up conceding 470 or they bid a dodgy game because they're already at the 3 level and now you can collect a penalty.
Advancer can also bid some pretty thin games which get missed on auctions like (1s) 2h (p) p (p)
btw i play the same stuff if 3rd hand bids. i still like the extra space there.
#5
Posted 2016-August-18, 06:00
Kungsgeten, on 2016-August-12, 11:13, said:
Roman Jump Overcalls are similar. I play these in a system called "The Overcall Structure" which includes a Power Double (15+) and 1NT overcall for takeout. There is only one WJO in the system: (1♣) 2♠.
http://www.jeff-gold...em/foutnote.txt
C3: Copious Canape Club is still my favorite system. (Ultra upgraded, PM for notes)
Santa Fe Precision ♣ published 8/19. TOP3 published 11/20. Magic experiment (Science Modernized) with Lenzo. 2020: Jan Eric Larsson's Cottontail ♣. 2020. BFUN (Bridge For the UNbalanced) 2021: Weiss Simplified ♣ (Canape & Relay). 2022: Canary ♣ Modernized, 2023-4: KOK Canape.
#6
Posted 2016-August-19, 05:38
Kungsgeten, on 2016-August-12, 05:22, said:
My 1M openings and 1M overcalls are sufficiently similar that it's possible to play almost identical structures (modulo ranges) over them. And since I'm very happy with what I play over my 1M openings, I play essentially the same structure over my 1M overcalls, too, even if it means that I'm not making the best use of the "cuebid" that in some cases becomes available. In particular, since 1M-2♣ is ART, I also play (1x)-1M-2♣ as ART.
#7
Posted 2016-August-26, 15:45
C3: Copious Canape Club is still my favorite system. (Ultra upgraded, PM for notes)
Santa Fe Precision ♣ published 8/19. TOP3 published 11/20. Magic experiment (Science Modernized) with Lenzo. 2020: Jan Eric Larsson's Cottontail ♣. 2020. BFUN (Bridge For the UNbalanced) 2021: Weiss Simplified ♣ (Canape & Relay). 2022: Canary ♣ Modernized, 2023-4: KOK Canape.
#8
Posted 2016-August-26, 15:45
C3: Copious Canape Club is still my favorite system. (Ultra upgraded, PM for notes)
Santa Fe Precision ♣ published 8/19. TOP3 published 11/20. Magic experiment (Science Modernized) with Lenzo. 2020: Jan Eric Larsson's Cottontail ♣. 2020. BFUN (Bridge For the UNbalanced) 2021: Weiss Simplified ♣ (Canape & Relay). 2022: Canary ♣ Modernized, 2023-4: KOK Canape.
#9
Posted 2016-August-26, 18:52
PrecisionL, on 2016-August-26, 15:45, said:
Many of my schemes were for a canape system (4-cd major openings).
An adjunct is that 2♦ and 2♥ responses are natural and can be passed with minimal support and/or minimum hands.
That's responder, what about advancer?
#10
Posted 2016-August-26, 19:37
glen, on 2016-August-26, 18:52, said:
Whoops, we play transfers starting with a cue of opener's suit. That solves some problems. A bid below a cue bid would be constructive but not forcing.
C3: Copious Canape Club is still my favorite system. (Ultra upgraded, PM for notes)
Santa Fe Precision ♣ published 8/19. TOP3 published 11/20. Magic experiment (Science Modernized) with Lenzo. 2020: Jan Eric Larsson's Cottontail ♣. 2020. BFUN (Bridge For the UNbalanced) 2021: Weiss Simplified ♣ (Canape & Relay). 2022: Canary ♣ Modernized, 2023-4: KOK Canape.