[filosofos]

Barmar, thank you for your reply.

I have to say, I still find the Windows client faster for logging in (almost instant) whereas the web version shows a series of dots moving left to right while it loads and then again while logging in. This lasts several seconds, sometimes longer. My browser and internet speed are good.

There is already a filter for the lobby on the Windows client. You can choose people from particular countries to see. This is handy as Acol is more commonly played in certain countries more than others. Therefore I don't have all that many people to scroll through.

Anyway, if I can't convince you, I guess I'll have to learn to live without the lobby. Thanks for your help in sorting out my other questions.

[eamongall]

Good evening folks (or morning or afternoon) depending on your location

[b]When the Windows version of BBO is gone I don't think I can do the below setup.

Currently one of my main uses of BBO is for preparing online Bidding practice sessions for the Irish Open bridge team.
Several offshoots of this application follow for lesser players.
I generally focus on competitive/interference/pre-emptive bidding as life is easy when the opps are silent.
My friends main requirement in a bidding session is that the GIBS will interfere regularly so therefore I need deals where
the robot acts on many hands so I must pre test the deals to get best use of time.

The international players give me many scenarios that they would like to practice and I produce a session and then load
the hands into the account of the designated table server of the practicing pair.

Here is the brief description

1. Open a partnership bidding table on web based BBO using Malahide as my account
2. Generate the script to describe the scenario required and when happy we are ready to go
3. Open a Windows BBO using Eamongall to record the generated and tested deals
4. Generate and examine boards and it they seem suitable keep them and continue
5. Example if I see 1NT P P P ..I skip it
6. I end up with a file of 64 or less hands and save it as some relevant name
7. Later I will load the file into the various BBO accounts
8. the players will do their bidding practice in their own time

Problem

I don't think the Web Based BBO allows me any export function of any hand sets without major surgery
and time from me.
Currently 1 hour work will get me 2 sets of 64 tested hands for bidding practice sessions

The next web based BBO will allow me to only have the hands saved in my BBO account but I cannot easily
transfer them to other BBO accounts

Thanks
Eamon Galligan
Eamongall on BBO

[BaldJean]

I am extremely disappointed that the Windows version of BBO will be retired on Feb 1st. I much prefer the Windows version because the graphics are so much superior to the graphics of the browser version.

[lycier]

Many chinese players told me that in many cases, not easy to log into BBO by web BBO, but relatively easy to log into old version BBO.
This is a disappointing news.

[barmar]

 lycier, on 2017-January-09, 12:35, said:

Many chinese players told me that in many cases, not easy to log into BBO by web BBO, but relatively easy to log into old version BBO.
This is a disappointing news.

They should contact support@bridgebase.com to ask for help with logging into the web version. Don't wait until the last minute.

[lycier]

Ok， I did, thank you for your help.

[Zelandakh]

 barmar, on 2016-November-09, 23:33, said:

Is space really at a premium? Modern PCs offer very high resolutions.

Apparently not high enough to allow for a decent display of the dummy! Not even as an option that can be turned off!!!

[Zelandakh]

 Oceanss, on 2016-December-07, 12:35, said:

In browser, when we are in any room, specifically some club, private or public, at top left we can choose to see 1) Open tables, 2) Full tables or 3) tables with friends. Altho, all very useful, it would be great if we could also see ALL tables currently open.

I also find the lack of an option for displaying all tables a significant disadvantage for club play.

 barmar, on 2016-December-30, 09:46, said:

There are thousands of players in the lobby, can you really effectively scan it looking for players with something specific in their profiles?

When I first found BBO I made the effort to filter the lobby list by country, selecting only those from the UK and constituent parts. I then marked suitable profiles as friends, which eventually led to my getting to know some folks on the site. I found this feature instantly gave BBO a friendlier feel than the other bridge sites I had tried that did not offer such a process for finding like-minded contacts.

[onoway]

listing at least all the friends is hugely useful for times of running tourneys, especially since the web version doesn't allow for members who offer to sub to be differentiated from the general public. I can see club members who have just logged in and ask if they are interested in subbing..usually they are. When we lose this feature we lose and the members lose as often they look around, don't see a game available that suits them so they go away. This way they get to play and we have a smoother running tourney.

That would be infinitely more useful than the fragments of conversation from other areas in BBO which take up a whole lot of space for no apparent purpose. If we must have clutter then please let it be useful clutter at least.

[barmar]

The web version does list all friends. Click on Who's Online and select the Friends tab.

[johnjo42]

I am APPALLED at the decision to close the Windows version. I used the Web version for the first time today and discovered:

1. There is no way to delete the chat screen quickly (if at all). F6 key in Windows

2. Results are confusing. You have to click on a separate screen and then go to other tables to compare instead of a separate window and a straight forward traveller opening.

3. Sounds are limited to one. A single drum. With Windows version there are several options.

I'm sure there are many more.

This smacks of Microsoft's bullying everyone to change to Windows 10 whether they liked it or not. I refused and am happy with Windows 7 just as I am VERY happy with BBO Windows version. PLEASE think again.

JJ

[johnjo42]

Also there is no way to see who is kibbing at your table.

Perhaps BBO will provide an easy comparison "How do I do this" guide between the two versions that we can print off.

[johnjo42]

 filosofos, on 2016-December-29, 20:20, said:

Hi

Would it be possible to address the following points in the web version, before asking us to switch to it?

They are not "asking us". They are forcing us to switch or forget BBO completely

[1eyedjack]

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:37, said:

1. There is no way to delete the chat screen quickly (if at all). F6 key in Windows

Just curious, but why does that matter?

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:37, said:

2. Results are confusing. You have to click on a separate screen and then go to other tables to compare instead of a separate window and a straight forward traveller opening.

I don't understand this complaint. Granted it is a long time since I have used the download client and memory of the comparison fades. But with the flash interface I have a results screen permanently open to the right of my playing area, with a tab on the top to alternate between my table and other tables. Still just one click to swap between them

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:37, said:

3. Sounds are limited to one. A single drum. With Windows version there are several options.

You may have a point. Personally I choose just one option: Sound "Off" - same in both versions for me.
But this is certainly an area of common complaint. If they would just switch off the sound that is emitted on each card play, but left you the choice to have other sounds on (typically, those which remind you that it is your turn to do something) that would be an improvement.

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:37, said:

I'm sure there are many more.

There had better be. Because if this is were the sum total of your cause for grievance it would be a pretty poor justification for being "APPALLED"

[1eyedjack]

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:39, said:

Also there is no way to see who is kibbing at your table.

Simply not true

[1eyedjack]

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:37, said:

I am APPALLED at the decision to close the Windows version. I used the Web version for the first time today and discovered:

This I think is the nub of the matter. You are producing a list of knee-jerk complaints within a day of trying the flash version. My suggestion would be, whether you like it or not, to force yourself to use the web version for maybe a month and THEN to trot out a list of grievances, some of which by then may have fallen by the wayside.

[barmar]

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:39, said:

Also there is no way to see who is kibbing at your table.

Click on Who's Online on the far right, then select the Kibitzers tab.

[johnu]

 johnjo42, on 2017-January-15, 11:37, said:

This smacks of Microsoft's bullying everyone to change to Windows 10 whether they liked it or not. I refused and am happy with Windows 7 just as I am VERY happy with BBO Windows version.

The Windows 10 scenario is not even close to the BBO Web conversion. Obviously you didn't "have to" convert to Windows 10, you were given a choice to get a free "upgrade" to Windows 10 before a certain date, and after that date, would probably have to pay to upgrade.

[johnu]

 1eyedjack, on 2017-January-15, 12:00, said:

This I think is the nub of the matter. You are producing a list of knee-jerk complaints within a day of trying the flash version. My suggestion would be, whether you like it or not, to force yourself to use the web version for maybe a month and THEN to trot out a list of grievances, some of which by then may have fallen by the wayside.

In fairness to johnjo42, there are hundreds (as demonstrated by posters in this thread and in posts and polls on Bridgewinners (plus the unknown number of users who don't participate either here or on BW) who have signficant issues with the Web version, many who have tried out the web version many times over a period of years.

[onoway]

 barmar, on 2017-January-12, 09:35, said:

The web version does list all friends. Click on Who's Online and select the Friends tab.

ok, an example of what I mean. I have a lot of the regular IAC members on friend's list so I can access people I see are free to invite them if I need a sub for a tourney or team match. When I was on web version the other day there were precisely none showing, and when I clicked on Friends or follow, not a name came up. So I logged out and back in with Windows, and about 30 showed up instantly. It's difficult to imagine they all logged in in the two minutes it took for me to change from web to download. So I need to click on two tabs in two different places to find out what is showing automatically on download? That is a perfect, typical example of what drives me crazy about the web version.