[wbartley]

Just play bridge robot:

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This is a perfectly normal bidding sequence showing a strong hand and more clubs than hearts.

[virgosrock]

wbartley, on 2017-November-21, 13:28, said:

Just play bridge robot:

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This is a perfectly normal bidding sequence showing a strong hand and more clubs than hearts.

quite pathetic it seems. I clicked on 2H nothing comes up. Went into undefined?

vrock

[smerriman]

Without the double, 2♥ is described as 5+♣, 4+♥, 18-22 total points and GIB correctly gives preference.

With the double, 2♥ is described as 3+♣, 4+♥, 15-22 total points. So that's where the bug is.

[steve2005]

So you have 18. Your asking for trouble. Opp has done takeout double so has hearts. Partner with 4 hearts and values could have bid 1H.
Your partner can easily have nothing. Your asking them to take preference at the 3 level with clubs.
Simply bidding 2C or 3C (or maybe 3C later) seems more sensible.

[Stephen Tu]

steve2005, on 2017-November-21, 17:06, said:

So you have 18. Your asking for trouble. Opp has done takeout double so has hearts. Partner with 4 hearts and values could have bid 1H.
Your partner can easily have nothing. Your asking them to take preference at the 3 level with clubs.
Simply bidding 2C or 3C (or maybe 3C later) seems more sensible.

Strongly disagree. Is partner going to bid 1H with HQxxxx or HQJxxx or HQJxx and absolutely nothing else?

If you are planning on competing to 3c anyway, it can't hurt to show hearts along the way, sometimes something good happens and you can bid a game, or hearts plays better than clubs.

If you think you are only worth competing to 2c and then giving up, OK, but as you can see even with partner having almost nothing 3c is icy. He could turn up yarb with a club void and you could still get out for down 1 with some luck. Plus it's going to be hard to them to double you when it's right missing 3 aces and the best trump holding probably J9xx under the bidder.

[wbartley]

steve2005, on 2017-November-21, 17:06, said:

So you have 18. Your asking for trouble. Opp has done takeout double so has hearts. Partner with 4 hearts and values could have bid 1H.
Your partner can easily have nothing. Your asking them to take preference at the 3 level with clubs.
Simply bidding 2C or 3C (or maybe 3C later) seems more sensible.

Asking for trouble. So, swap partner's heart and spade holding and I'm probably cold for 4H. And what does your opinion of my bid have to do with the obvious fact that my bid shows longer clubs than hearts?

This is the GIB forum. If you think that pass is the correct bid on this auction by GIB, then say so.

[steve2005]

wbartley, on 2017-November-21, 17:42, said:

This is the GIB forum. If you think that pass is the correct bid on this auction by GIB, then say so.

Free country I can comment on what I want.
Do want to listen don't.

[wbartley]

steve2005, on 2017-November-21, 19:46, said:

Free country I can comment on what I want.
Do want to listen don't.

I'll take that as a no.

[virgosrock]

wbartley, on 2017-November-21, 20:45, said:

I'll take that as a no.

I don't understand the squabbling given smerriman's response that 2H is 3+C, 4+H. Now, I am not able to see what smerriman is suggesting when I click on ANY bid in the diagram. I doubt it is a problem with my computer or browser. I think the hand was posted using a "minimal" hv= instead of the maximaLOL hv=.
Looks like you were not showing 5+C and 4+H so this whole thread is redundant.

vrock

[steve2005]

wbartley, on 2017-November-21, 13:28, said:

Just play bridge robot:
This is a perfectly normal bidding sequence showing a strong hand and more clubs than hearts.

either this wasn't in Gib's bidding database so passed
or with 2 points Gib didn't feel had enough to make the correct call at the 3-level