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What should we use 2D for?

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Posted 2018-August-08, 00:58

Looks better to me. Still have a vacant 2D opening.
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Posted 2018-August-10, 12:46

It is leaning towards playing 2D as a normal weak two, but we'll allow a good five card suit first seat non-vul (and also in third seat).
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Posted 2018-August-11, 02:49

Or you could say [ ... and responder has 5S and 4H, and both are weak ... ] that 2♦ is Ekrens with at least 54xx. Use it to fill holes. I play natural weak2 and Ekrens (with different partners!) and prefer Ekrens. Yes, 2♦ is forcing if you want to include a strong option (mine is 21+ 3-suiter).
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Posted 2018-August-11, 08:31

 fromageGB, on 2018-August-11, 02:49, said:

I play natural weak2 and Ekrens (with different partners!) and prefer Ekrens. Yes, 2♦ is forcing if you want to include a strong option (mine is 21+ 3-suiter).

I play Ekrens 2♦ as weak or GF in one partnership, but the opening is still NOT forcing. I'd pass 2♦ with 12 hcp, 2263, for example. Why wouldn't you? :)
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Posted 2018-August-11, 08:49

 nullve, on 2018-August-11, 08:31, said:

I play Ekrens 2♦ as weak or GF in one partnership, but the opening is still NOT forcing. I'd pass 2♦ with 12 hcp, 2263, for example. Why wouldn't you? :)

Maybe because partner may be a 24 count 4144? If 2♦ does not have a strong option then pass is an option. Partner did once have a long diamond hand and passed, but of course I did have the strong option.
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Posted 2018-August-11, 10:07

 fromageGB, on 2018-August-11, 08:49, said:

Maybe because partner may be a 24 count 4144? If 2♦ does not have a strong option then pass is an option. Partner did once have a long diamond hand and passed, but of course I did have the strong option.

So you don't think Pass has the highest expected value on the hand type I gave?

FWIW (not much, I guess), here are 100 random weak-or-GF Ekrens 2♦ deals where Responder has 12 hcp, 2263:

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