Playing matchpoints, we hold J52 982 K AKJ843 and open one Club. Partner responds one Spade. Should we rebid our six-card Club suit, or should we supports partner's Spades with Jack third?
Would there be a different response playing imps?
Many thanks.
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rebid six-card minor or support partner's major
#2
Posted 2019-December-05, 09:49
I would bid 2 spades
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
#3
Posted 2019-December-05, 12:50
System matters here:
Do you bid spades in front of diamonds with 4 of each ?
Would a 2♠ jump shift have been weak or strong ?
Do you bid spades in front of diamonds with 4 of each ?
Would a 2♠ jump shift have been weak or strong ?
#4
Posted 2019-December-05, 13:18
Many thanks for the comments so far. We are playing 4-card majors with a weak No Trump. A jump to 2S would be weak.
Responder's hand was K843 AK7 J98 965.
Responder's hand was K843 AK7 J98 965.
#5
Posted 2019-December-05, 13:41
ChrisIrv, on 2019-December-05, 13:18, said:
Many thanks for the comments so far. We are playing 4-card majors with a weak No Trump. A jump to 2S would be weak.
Responder's hand was K843 AK7 J98 965.
Responder's hand was K843 AK7 J98 965.
Our auction would be either:
1♣-1♠-2♣-2♦(art inv+)-2♠-2N-3♣/3N
1♣-1♠-2♠-2N-3♣/3N
In either case for us responder shows a 4333 11 ish, opener can choose whether to punt 3N.
I'm not sure which is best initially, if 2♠ would have been strong I think the WJS hands make 2♠ best, it's closer if you play 2♠ weak.
#6
Posted 2019-December-05, 14:11
ChrisIrv, on 2019-December-05, 13:18, said:
Many thanks for the comments so far. We are playing 4-card majors with a weak No Trump. A jump to 2S would be weak.
Responder's hand was K843 AK7 J98 965.
Responder's hand was K843 AK7 J98 965.
When you play weak notrump, raising partner's spades can't be based on a balanced minimum. So you show extras, or some distributional values. This makes it problematic to raise on 3-card support with a minimum.
I would rebid 2♣. You may get the chance to show the spades support later, while if you start with 2♠, I am not sure if you will be able to show that you have six clubs.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
#7
Posted 2019-December-05, 14:15
Hi,
#1 Do you regular raise with 3 Card support Partner 4 Card suit?
Do you have Methods to detect, that you only have a 7 Card suit fit?
Do you by pass Diamonds, when Holding 4 Diamonds and a 4 Card Major, if you do,
the probability, that the spade suit is a 5 carder goes down, hence raising looses
some of ist Appeal.
Similar, if the opener was in 2nd seat, the Need to raise spades goes down.
#2 Given that 66% of all your HCPs are in your suit, I would rebid my suit.
#3 Playing MP, there is a adv. playing the Major, , if you go plus, playing IMPs,
going plus is more important, if you have a spade fit and game, Partner will be
able to ask for secondary support.
Finnally, given that you are dead min, I would try to go slower, raising Partners Major
is a life Signal, and Partner may get excited, move the single king to another suit,
raising spades has a lot going for it.
With Kind regards
Marlowe
#1 Do you regular raise with 3 Card support Partner 4 Card suit?
Do you have Methods to detect, that you only have a 7 Card suit fit?
Do you by pass Diamonds, when Holding 4 Diamonds and a 4 Card Major, if you do,
the probability, that the spade suit is a 5 carder goes down, hence raising looses
some of ist Appeal.
Similar, if the opener was in 2nd seat, the Need to raise spades goes down.
#2 Given that 66% of all your HCPs are in your suit, I would rebid my suit.
#3 Playing MP, there is a adv. playing the Major, , if you go plus, playing IMPs,
going plus is more important, if you have a spade fit and game, Partner will be
able to ask for secondary support.
Finnally, given that you are dead min, I would try to go slower, raising Partners Major
is a life Signal, and Partner may get excited, move the single king to another suit,
raising spades has a lot going for it.
With Kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#8
Posted 2019-December-05, 14:27
Raising a major to the two level on a three card suit in Acol is really only an option where you don't have any better alternative bid available. To supress a 'jolly' good six card ♣ suit headed by AKJ would be anti-bidding to me.
If partner has extras, you can show ♠ support on the next round.
If partner has extras, you can show ♠ support on the next round.
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