BBO Discussion Forums: Towns in Belgium - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Towns in Belgium A declarer play problem

#1 User is online   nullve 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,302
  • Joined: 2014-April-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norway
  • Interests:partscores

Posted 2020-June-10, 10:20

From a Robot Rebate 55% tournament I played today:


Please press the 'Next' button to see the two first tricks and then take over.

(I'm not trying to make fun of GiB here, despite what happened in trick 2.)
1

#2 User is offline   shyams 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,666
  • Joined: 2009-August-02
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2020-June-10, 12:33

I guess my imagination is limited to playing for the player holding the A to also have begun with a doubleton diamond.

So I draw a couple of rounds of trumps (3, if needed) and play on clubs.
1

#3 User is offline   FelicityR 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 980
  • Joined: 2012-October-26
  • Gender:Female

Posted 2020-June-10, 13:56

View Postnullve, on 2020-June-10, 10:20, said:

I'm not trying to make fun of GiB here, despite what happened in trick 2.


I'm guessing here that instead of ending up with 9 tricks assuming West led from a doubleton you ended up with 11 tricks when East fails to cash the K later in the play and you get a discard on one of dummy's honours?

Now that would be stupid, but given how stupid GIB was at trick two I imagine that it is not beyond the realms of possibility.

I'm still trying to work out what it has to do with 'Towns in Belgium' though...
0

#4 User is offline   apollo1201 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,131
  • Joined: 2014-June-01

Posted 2020-June-10, 14:09

View PostFelicityR, on 2020-June-10, 13:56, said:


Now that would be stupid, but given how stupid GIB was at trick two I imagine that it is not beyond the realms of possibility.



I’ve seen « worse » by humans. Suit contact, K lead, dummy hits with Txx and i have small doubleton. RHO overtakes the K to return J, that LHO in turn obertakes with Q. I looked quite puzzled when it went small, 10, small and discard.

I guess RHO was afraid his partner would fear a Bath coup if he ducked (but with T in dummy it is thoughtless) while LHO thought this unblocking would guarantee 3 tricks by a ruff.

View PostFelicityR, on 2020-June-10, 13:56, said:


I'm still trying to work out what it has to do with 'Towns in Belgium' though...



Same...
0

#5 User is online   nullve 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,302
  • Joined: 2014-April-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norway
  • Interests:partscores

Posted 2020-June-11, 02:57

View Postshyams, on 2020-June-10, 12:33, said:

I guess my imagination is limited to playing for the player holding the A to also have begun with a doubleton diamond.

And if that isn't the case, is there a best way of fooling opps into not cashing the K?

View PostFelicityR, on 2020-June-10, 13:56, said:

I'm guessing here that instead of ending up with 9 tricks assuming West led from a doubleton you ended up with 11 tricks when East fails to cash the K later in the play and you get a discard on one of dummy's honours?

Yes, that is what happened.

View PostFelicityR, on 2020-June-10, 13:56, said:

I'm still trying to work out what it has to do with 'Towns in Belgium' though...

Not much, although it rhymes with 'Gowns in Belgium'.
0

#6 User is online   nullve 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,302
  • Joined: 2014-April-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norway
  • Interests:partscores

Posted 2020-June-11, 16:37

The bidding and two first tricks were the same at four other tables. But there the declarers ended up with only 10 tricks after continuing with the AK (at tricks 3 and 4) followed by the K (at trick 5).
0

#7 User is offline   cherdano 

  • 5555
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,519
  • Joined: 2003-September-04
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2020-June-11, 17:29

I've meant to write a post about this - good example nullve.

You have to cash A against GIB before setting up clubs. GIB won't infer that you have a singleton spade, hence he will probably try to cash a spade rather than a diamond when in with A.

The key to declaring against GIB is that while GIB may make odd-looking plays, in truth its plays are VERY logical. GIB is just completely unable to dray any inferences from your play at all.
The easiest way to count losers is to line up the people who talk about loser count, and count them. -Kieran Dyke
1

#8 User is online   nullve 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,302
  • Joined: 2014-April-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norway
  • Interests:partscores

Posted 2020-June-11, 17:48

View Postcherdano, on 2020-June-11, 17:29, said:

You have to cash A against GIB before setting up clubs. GIB won't infer that you have a singleton spade, hence he will probably try to cash a spade rather than a diamond when in with A.

Exactly.

This was the full deal:


0

#9 User is offline   shyams 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,666
  • Joined: 2009-August-02
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2020-June-12, 04:20

Thank you, this is very useful.

By the way, what's the story with the title?
0

#10 User is online   nullve 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,302
  • Joined: 2014-April-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norway
  • Interests:partscores

Posted 2020-June-12, 05:16

View Postshyams, on 2020-June-12, 04:20, said:

By the way, what's the story with the title?

I was looking for a title that stuck out without giving away any clues about the play. So I chose one evidently not about bridge.
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users