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Rebid with 6-4 after 1 over 1

#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2021-November-15, 07:17


What do you bid? 3 or 2
2 is forcing in our system; And partner can only support to 3 with invite+, otherwise he will give (very) false preference to 2.

and with less:

or more:

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Posted 2021-November-15, 11:43

What do opener's continuations mean after
1 - 1
2 - 3
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Posted 2021-November-15, 11:55

I don't see any reason not to rebid clubs with all these hands, but I wonder .... if opener can rebid 2 with the 2nd as well as the 3rd hand, how does opener show strength in 3rd round? Presumably 2 is unlimited (why else would it be forcing), but what would a 3 rebid mean, then? Splinter? Or specifically 5-5?
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Posted 2021-November-15, 13:38

and with less:


If responder is forced to reply 2 with void, you better not rebid 2 with this!

Carl
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Posted 2021-November-15, 14:20

Really need some more info on how your 2 bid works. If it's forcing, why not play it as some form of Gazzilli - which of course changes all of the answers.
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Posted 2021-November-16, 01:05

I'm very old-fashioned. 2, 2, and 3. Noting the lack of stuffing in the Heart suit, which militates against an immediate rebid of them.

However, if I was playing the stated system, I'd probably rebid in hearts wherever possible because it sounds like false preference on a void could fix me.
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Posted 2021-November-16, 03:12

Playing a standard approach 3, 2, 3, but 2 for the 2nd one if forcing.
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Posted 2021-November-16, 05:24

View Postbluenikki, on 2021-November-15, 11:43, said:

What do opener's continuations mean after
1 - 1
2 - 3
?

All would be GF.
On 3-level searching for best contract (f.i. 3NT).
4 SI with
4 splinter
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Posted 2021-November-16, 05:26

View Posthelene_t, on 2021-November-15, 11:55, said:

I don't see any reason not to rebid clubs with all these hands, but I wonder .... if opener can rebid 2 with the 2nd as well as the 3rd hand, how does opener show strength in 3rd round? Presumably 2 is unlimited (why else would it be forcing), but what would a 3 rebid mean, then? Splinter? Or specifically 5-5?

3 would be mini-splinter: Fit , single , 12-14 or 18-19.
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Posted 2021-November-16, 05:29

View Postbluenikki, on 2021-November-15, 13:38, said:

and with less:


If responder is forced to reply 2 with void, you better not rebid 2 with this!

Carl

Either you bid 2 or 2 and would end in 2 in that case?
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Posted 2021-November-16, 05:30

View Postsmerriman, on 2021-November-15, 14:20, said:

Really need some more info on how your 2 bid works. If it's forcing, why not play it as some form of Gazzilli - which of course changes all of the answers.

It is natural, but forcing because it is unlimited. (because 3 is splinter)
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Posted 2021-November-16, 05:46


(I think the North hand was something like this)
I did rebid 3, because I thought that it was the best way to describe my hand (especially the points).
I release that it was a bad choice.
Partner did give a control for H with single Q.
My hand was max and I could bid 4 (last train) or 4 (control), but feared that partner searched control.
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