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Ben on BBO - Feedback thread Discussions about Ben models trained on BBO data

#161 User is offline   TwoOneBEN 

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Posted 2024-August-07, 15:53

A splinter disaster



Now for GIB 4 is natural, but as it does not deny the 5-card , I really don't get the Pass, but I assume it is because BEN never had been trained with that sequence.
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Posted 2024-August-13, 07:56

Annoying that BEN is not bidding the same each time



23 players saw BEN bid the very strange 2



One lucky player got the more natural 2 and scored 100%.

Also worth noting the failure to cover 9 at trick 7.
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Posted 2024-August-15, 09:25

Testing two different models from BEN in the wild I noticed this strange situation.

Just to clarify: I am using the Open Source version of BEN as participant in the BEN and Freinds daily, so there are 4 BEN's but one (south) is not controlled by BBO
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Down 1 and a fine score of 64%



Using the new bidding model all was the same until trick 6, where BEN suddenly found a much better plan.

Making an overtrick and a score of 1.2%

Please remove the randomness in the BBO-BEN
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#164 User is offline   TwoOneBEN 

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Posted 2024-August-20, 10:16

I am not sure anyone still read this thread :-)

But this is interesting, because BEN haven't been trained in the default GIB system



Explanation is correct, but BBO-BEN just passed.

And yes, the south hand is not good enough for 4, but I will discuss that with the open source version of BEN.
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#165 User is offline   bryanmacp 

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Posted 2024-September-18, 14:29

View Postpilowsky, on 2024-January-05, 15:39, said:

The end of the world is nigh.

It is refreshing not to have Best Hand deals. Closer to real bridge. Still needs some work though
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Posted 2024-September-22, 08:30

Interested in playing w Ben in 8 board invite tourney.
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Posted 2024-October-02, 01:43

Post in the Ben on BBO BBO Forums thread to be added to the tournament
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Posted 2024-October-04, 14:20

View Postmstockyard, on 2024-September-22, 08:30, said:

Interested in playing w Ben in 8 board invite tourney.


If you are interested in playing with the Open Source version of BEN (Not the BBO version) I might be able to set it up.

As a start feel free to challenge the Robot on BBO (Name is TwoOneBEN). In a challenge you will play 3 GIB-robots, and the compare with your opponent. Then you can get an impression of the strength and especially weaknesses of the robot.
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Posted 2024-October-09, 23:48

Is this a bidding misunderstanding? https://tinyurl.com/ytepqw8f
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Posted 2024-October-25, 00:38

Ben bids like a human: https://tinyurl.com/22oc5kvm
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Posted 2024-October-25, 01:47

 pilowsky, on 2024-October-25, 00:38, said:

Ben bids like a human: https://tinyurl.com/22oc5kvm

Very unlucky hand where A was in the wrong hand. And very unsporting of you to double. :P
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Posted 2024-October-25, 02:03

Auction seems to scream for a low club lead.

(I'm still trying to figure out how I scored more than 50% on this hand, though :))
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Posted 2024-November-05, 15:26

View Postpilowsky, on 2024-March-02, 20:37, said:

Ben breaking bad?
My board.

39 other boards!.

View Postthorvald, on 2024-April-21, 16:34, said:

Interesting that 26 times North opened a 4th hand 2, and one time the Robot in West did not balance with 3

View PostTwoOneBEN, on 2024-May-31, 09:31, said:

Inconsistent bidding.

View PostTwoOneBEN, on 2024-June-04, 05:43, said:

South open 1N once, and 1 38 times

View PostTwoOneBEN, on 2024-June-26, 06:49, said:

As far as I can see we got two different defences but bidding and play was identical up the point

View PostTwoOneBEN, on 2024-August-13, 07:56, said:

Annoying that BEN is not bidding the same each time

And a couple of days ago, a 1.7% board for me because the defense differed at my table only.

It seems Ben and lorserker have met the same fate as GIB and jdonn :(
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Posted 2024-November-05, 16:31

Nope, we're still alive and following :)

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