[jillybean]

21 table game, my co-director is away.
Last round, I am called to a table and find declarer has 5 cards left, 8 card quitted on table. Dummy and opponents have 4 cards in hand, 9 card quitted.
Last 2 tricks are examined and determined to be correct, I am then called away for a medical emergency at another table.

I never get back to the table, the players finished the hand and scored the board.

I'm still looking for the relevant Law.

[blackshoe]

Probably Law 67, and there is a defective trick somewhere in the quitted tricks. It seems like that declarer either didn't play to a trick, or played to one and then put his played card back in his hand.

The players have violated Law 10A. You could, I suppose, invoke Law 10B ("The Director may allow or cancel any enforcement or waiver of a rectification made by the players without his instructions"). Or you could just let their resolution -- and score -- for the board stand. If you do that though, you should at least tell them that making their own rulings is against the rules, regardless of the circumstances. You might even issue both sides a PP. I know, that's "just not done". Maybe it should be done more often.

[jillybean]

Thanks.
I did let the resolution and score stand.
This is an unsanctioned game so while we do try to follow the Laws we won't be using PPs. I think it works well,both as a gentle introduction to duplicate and the Laws and as a training ground for want to be Directors.

[mycroft]

I as much want to be followed and respected as the next director, but it's a game, folks - in particular, it's a game where (in this case) a large part of the draw of the game is that it's not run like a sectional, where "every little crossing of the line is penalized, and the better players claim you're c-wording if you're not perfect".

Sure, this is why I don't leave the table until the problem is solved, forcing others (including my table, if I'm a playing director) to wait their turn. But "medical emergency" overrides "correct game". And if the players decide to solve it their way under those conditions, accept it and move on. Frankly, that's better than the alternative of everybody rubbernecking the accident! Maybe mention that it still would have been better to wait and get it right, but "best result possible, not best possible result" applies to directors where Mrs. Guggenheim plays just as much as to her partners.

And yes, that's *me* saying this...

[jillybean]

mycroft, on 2024-November-21, 11:13, said:

run like a sectional, where "every little crossing of the line is penalized, and the better players claim you're c-wording if you're not perfect".

Penalties?

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2024-November-21, 12:59, said:

Penalties?

Penalties work well where the player should have known they were due, otherwise only if obligatory IMO.

PS. I wanted to message you but your box is full

[mycroft]

Jilly, you know and I know what *actually happens*, but these are the people who have got "DIE-REC-TOR"ed out of the sanctioned game. And are very willing to tell their friends how horrible and rules-lawyery and nasty all those players are in the sanctioned clubs. That's why they're here, where it's a "friendly game" and "everyone's just here to enjoy themselves".

[jillybean]

pescetom, on 2024-November-21, 16:14, said:

Penalties work well where the player should have known they were due, otherwise only if obligatory IMO.

PS. I wanted to message you but your box is full

Anyone playing for more than a year should know...

Re; in box. You've exposed my lack of housekeeping. ok now

[jillybean]

mycroft, on 2024-November-21, 18:02, said:

Jilly, you know and I know what *actually happens*, but these are the people who have got "DIE-REC-TOR"ed out of the sanctioned game. And are very willing to tell their friends how horrible and rules-lawyery and nasty all those players are in the sanctioned clubs. That's why they're here, where it's a "friendly game" and "everyone's just here to enjoy themselves".

I disagree, but this isn't the forum right medium.