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Robot rescued us from bad contract it ran 3NTx to 6NT
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Posted Yesterday, 14:36
What actually did the robot think?
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Posted Yesterday, 14:43
mikl_plkcc, on 2025-January-29, 14:36, said:
What actually did the robot think?
If East had paid attention they would have noticed their first double promised 5+ diamonds, and their second double promised 16+ HCP, so the robot would ask what actually was East thinking?
It just can't handle everyone else at the table psyching from its understanding of bids.
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Posted Yesterday, 21:15
Never my what what on the bots mind, what was North thinking when he let the bot play in 6NT undoubled?
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Posted Today, 03:19
What if the robot escape to 7♦ and made it?
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smerriman, on 2025-January-29, 14:43, said:
It just can't handle everyone else at the table psyching from its understanding of bids.
If robot believes East, than making 12 tricks in 6NT isn't nearly as good as beating 3NT by 7 or 8 tricks. Or if robot believes North, then if North can make 3NT, then how is 6NT going to work out. Does GIB make those types of score analysis?
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Posted Today, 19:00
johnu, on 2025-January-30, 05:19, said:
If robot believes East, than making 12 tricks in 6NT isn't nearly as good as beating 3NT by 7 or 8 tricks. Or if robot believes North, then if North can make 3NT, then how is 6NT going to work out. Does GIB make those types of score analysis?
If it's allowed to do simulations, it does. That's basically how the sims work -- it deals a bunch of possible hands, runs double dummy analysis, and determines the expected score for each action (passing the double versus bidding on). The action with the higher average score is chosen.
But if it's just getting the bid from the bidding DB, sometimes this isn't always taken into account.
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Posted Today, 19:54
And in this case, the rule is "if you're balanced, have no fit with partner, and have enough combined points for 6NT but know 7NT is off the cards, bid it and specifically skip the simulation process".
Which does make some sense, since otherwise with simulations on it will start seeing all of its potential bids leading to the same contact, so would likely start making random cuebids that both humans and simulating robot partners will misunderstand as grand slam tries. And that'd be a far greater problem than the rare occurrence that the opponents are in 3NT and your partnership has enough points for slam.
Which does make some sense, since otherwise with simulations on it will start seeing all of its potential bids leading to the same contact, so would likely start making random cuebids that both humans and simulating robot partners will misunderstand as grand slam tries. And that'd be a far greater problem than the rare occurrence that the opponents are in 3NT and your partnership has enough points for slam.
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