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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2025-February-19, 20:15

My co-director and I are sharing sitting in for a missing player today, so no fancy agreements.
I sit down and pick up this hand.


“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted 2025-February-19, 23:51

I'm claiming my major first :) - anything else is planning way too far ahead for me
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Posted 2025-February-20, 01:07

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If opps bid 1 and partner does not neg DBL, I will rebid 2 but am happy to pass if advancer raises 1 to 2 or higher.
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Posted 2025-February-20, 01:39

Washington Standard players would scoff at the suggestion that this is a problem as they have an automatic 1 opener. I've read that with 0=5=0=8 that they would still bid 1 since if you don't open 1 of a major you don't have a 5 card suit.

Playing a 2/1 style, I would open 1 and rebid clubs if given the chance.

If you open 1, what do you bid over a 1 or 1NT response? You've got 2 mediocre long suits, and not nearly the playing strength to reverse to 2. Opposite a 1 response, you're facing a potential misfit so getting your hearts in could be problematic. Opposite 1NT the chance of a misfit is lower, but getting to hearts is just as problematic. Your best plan of action is to hope that partner responds 1.
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Posted 2025-February-20, 07:51

Since I'm yet to take up W.S, I decided to open 1C. Opening 1H and treating it as a 55 hand is perhaps better.


The auction quickly heated up

“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted 2025-February-20, 08:14

View Postjillybean, on 2025-February-20, 07:51, said:

Since I'm yet to take up W.S, I decided to open 1C. Opening 1H and treating it as a 55 hand is perhaps better.

The auction quickly heated up



I get best of both worlds here, we play X as exactly 4 hearts when 3 suits have been bid, so 2 shows 5-6 and not necessarily extras.
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Posted 2025-February-20, 08:51

That's a nice treatment.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted 2025-February-20, 18:00



North woke up in time for the second and subsequent rounds of bidding.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted 2025-February-20, 19:20

1H-1NT
2C-2NT
4C-5C
6C :rolleyes:

I cheated and put it through a 2/1 engine - no interference from NS at all

Sad outcome
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Posted 2025-February-21, 00:43

View Postjillybean, on 2025-February-20, 18:00, said:



North woke up in time for the second and subsequent rounds of bidding.

I was thinking about West's 3rd bid. I wonder what of the below is in line with good theory:

1. If East is a competent bidder, East will not hold a 4-card Heart suit or a 4-card Spade suit (or both) if East has 6-9 HCPs. One prefers to respond 1M (not 1) holding a min hand and 4-3-4-2, 3-4-4-2, 4-2-4-3, 2-4-4,3 shapes.
2. To me, the 3 raise is most certainly a 3-card (not a 2-card) raise. The bid also confirms East's HCP strength in the sub-game (6-10) range.
3. They (NS) appear to have a 10- or 11-card fit in Spades. We cannot be sure which side makes how many tricks.

So I think I would jump to 5 instead of simply bidding 4. Our side may not make it, but IF we don't, there is a fair chance that their side will make 4 if we allow them to bid it.
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Posted 2025-February-21, 08:52

The bidding is all messed up.
North?/South forgot to bid their hands.

South jumps to two spades
North jumps to four spades
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Posted 2025-February-21, 10:58

View Postshyams, on 2025-February-21, 00:43, said:

I was thinking about West's 3rd bid. I wonder what of the below is in line with good theory:

1. If East is a competent bidder, East will not hold a 4-card Heart suit or a 4-card Spade suit (or both) if East has 6-9 HCPs. One prefers to respond 1M (not 1) holding a min hand and 4-3-4-2, 3-4-4-2, 4-2-4-3, 2-4-4,3 shapes.
2. To me, the 3 raise is most certainly a 3-card (not a 2-card) raise. The bid also confirms East's HCP strength in the sub-game (6-10) range.
3. They (NS) appear to have a 10- or 11-card fit in Spades. We cannot be sure which side makes how many tricks.

So I think I would jump to 5 instead of simply bidding 4. Our side may not make it, but IF we don't, there is a fair chance that their side will make 4 if we allow them to bid it.

I like your analysis. Not knowing the style of these players, I have to make a lot of assumptions and took the low road.
5 opposite a regular partner looks like a good bid.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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