MPs, both Red, 4th seat. Dealer opens 2♠ weak (6-cards at this vul). Followed by two passes to you.
You hold ♠Ax ♥Axxxx ♦x ♣AQxxx.
Your call?
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In the passout seat Your call?
#2
Posted Yesterday, 03:20
Hi,
I wont pass it out, and I am usually looking for game, hence 3H.
If you treat it as a 5+ club, 4+ heart hand by bidding 3C, I have sympathie, and it is MP.
With kind regards
Marlowe
I wont pass it out, and I am usually looking for game, hence 3H.
If you treat it as a 5+ club, 4+ heart hand by bidding 3C, I have sympathie, and it is MP.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#3
Posted Yesterday, 04:19
I play that 3♠ here is 'mini-Michaels', showing 5(+)♥ and an unknown 5(+)m, weaker than a 4m Leaping Michaels bid.
There are a few complications with this option: 1) the forum this question is posted in; 2) the 3♠ bid commits us to the 4-level. Especially given the lack of a raise, partner may not appreciate that; 3) I do not have enough experience with this gadget to decide where the exact boundaries are between 3♥, 3♠ and 4♣ with this shape.
I am not passing or doubling. In practice I would bid 3♠, also to gain more experience with the gadget. I think it's not too far off - we have the shape, and I would be uncomfortable bidding 4♣ LM on this 'aces and spaces' hand. However, 3♥ may well be better.
There are a few complications with this option: 1) the forum this question is posted in; 2) the 3♠ bid commits us to the 4-level. Especially given the lack of a raise, partner may not appreciate that; 3) I do not have enough experience with this gadget to decide where the exact boundaries are between 3♥, 3♠ and 4♣ with this shape.
I am not passing or doubling. In practice I would bid 3♠, also to gain more experience with the gadget. I think it's not too far off - we have the shape, and I would be uncomfortable bidding 4♣ LM on this 'aces and spaces' hand. However, 3♥ may well be better.
#4
Posted Yesterday, 08:34
Absent any other methods, 3♥ and I hope partner can act.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
#5
Posted Yesterday, 09:31
DavidKok, on 2025-June-26, 04:19, said:
I play that 3♠ here is 'mini-Michaels', showing 5(+)♥ and an unknown 5(+)m, weaker than a 4m Leaping Michaels bid.
There are a few complications with this option: 1) the forum this question is posted in; 2) the 3♠ bid commits us to the 4-level. Especially given the lack of a raise, partner may not appreciate that; 3) I do not have enough experience with this gadget to decide where the exact boundaries are between 3♥, 3♠ and 4♣ with this shape.
I am not passing or doubling. In practice I would bid 3♠, also to gain more experience with the gadget. I think it's not too far off - we have the shape, and I would be uncomfortable bidding 4♣ LM on this 'aces and spaces' hand. However, 3♥ may well be better.
There are a few complications with this option: 1) the forum this question is posted in; 2) the 3♠ bid commits us to the 4-level. Especially given the lack of a raise, partner may not appreciate that; 3) I do not have enough experience with this gadget to decide where the exact boundaries are between 3♥, 3♠ and 4♣ with this shape.
I am not passing or doubling. In practice I would bid 3♠, also to gain more experience with the gadget. I think it's not too far off - we have the shape, and I would be uncomfortable bidding 4♣ LM on this 'aces and spaces' hand. However, 3♥ may well be better.
We also play 3S as Michaels, and 4C/4D as Leaping Michaels, the diff for us is, the Leaping is Nonforcing and could, on rare occassions
be based on 5+/4+ hands. 3S would basically be a forcing Michaels, laying more emphasis on the heart suit instead of the minor suit.
In this regard, I think, 4m is also ok for us, ..., you will end up at the 4 level, but 4m gives you the best chance to play your best fit.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#6
Posted Yesterday, 11:48
We don't play the 'mini-Michaels', but in this case I'm comfortable with 4C Leaping Michaels and prefer it to 3H.
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