[harikannan]

https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/4f8bkw8c

Assume both vulnerable, if it matters.

Should I bid or pass as South?

Thanks.

[mike777]

Easy pass for me.

North could not raise, North could not make a 2/1 as a passed hand...

[harikannan]

If partner has two spades, I prefer to play in spades. If he has just one, where do my tricks come from in 1NT? That is the dilemma I face. What worse could happen if I bid 2c?

[DavidKok]

A systemic pass for me, part of the notrump ladder.

[paulg]

harikannan, on 2025-October-28, 22:37, said:

If partner has two spades, I prefer to play in spades. If he has just one, where do my tricks come from in 1NT? That is the dilemma I face. What worse could happen if I bid 2c?

For a start, partner may well bid two no trump expecting you to have a better hand.

Presumably you opened in fourth seat because there was a good chance that you had the balance of points and were likely to go positive. Raising the level without a fit increases the chances of going negative.

[harikannan]

Yes, partner bidding 2NT is very much a risk. But partner may pass with 4+ clubs, bid 2S with 2 spades or bid a five-card red suit -- all of which seem better to me than playing in 1NT. I thought it was close but posters here clearly think otherwise.

[P_Marlowe]

harikannan, on 2025-October-29, 02:38, said:

Yes, partner bidding 2NT is very much a risk. But partner may pass with 4+ clubs, bid 2S with 2 spades or bid a five-card red suit -- all of which seem better to me than playing in 1NT. I thought it was close but posters here clearly think otherwise.

You can assume, that p has approx. 9-10 HCP, you are min, only 11HCP, they did not open the bidding,
i.e. they dont have more than 10HCP either, this means, p will be max for the 1NT call.

Which in the end means, you will be playing 1NT with 20HCP, it could be worse.

[pescetom]

harikannan, on 2025-October-29, 02:38, said:

Yes, partner bidding 2NT is very much a risk. But partner may pass with 4+ clubs, bid 2S with 2 spades or bid a five-card red suit -- all of which seem better to me than playing in 1NT. I thought it was close but posters here clearly think otherwise.

Partner is unlikely to hold a decent 5 card red suit or 5 card clubs, otherwise he would have stretched to bid 2/1 as a passed hand. Game is not on and NT may well be a good place to play, especially if we can avoid describing Declarer's hand further. Fourth seat openings are about scoring on our side, I wouldn't be in a hurry to gamble on moysian spades with no obvious ruff in the dummy.

[mikeh]

harikannan, on 2025-October-28, 22:37, said:

If partner has two spades, I prefer to play in spades. If he has just one, where do my tricks come from in 1NT? That is the dilemma I face. What worse could happen if I bid 2c?

You lie to partner. 2C opposite a non forcing 1N would show 4+ clubs and thus 9+ black cards. You don’t have 4 clubs. Sure, you might get away with it, but partnership discipline is all about staying true to your agreed methods. Once you start to bid more or less randomly, goodbye to any semblance of having a good partnership.

It’s not about ‘guessing’ on random hands: it’s about consistency such that when you tell partner that you have 4 clubs, you have. 4 clubs.

[mycroft]

Have you shown your hand? Yes.
Has partner said where he wants to play opposite 5 spades and a minimum balanced opener? Yes. Well, okay, he might have said "I don't have enough strength to show my actual suit", but that's the price you pay for knowing "10-11 and a suit" when they do bid it.
Are you scared of leaving him in 1NT? Well, if not, you wouldn't be asking the question.
Should you pass or bid? Well, that's a question, but it's a question you answered last round. Now, you follow system, and apologize to partner for not taking zero if he goes down - whether it goes down in any contract, 2♠ is better on the 5-2 (sure about that?) or even if 2♦ on the 6-2 is best.

[Huibertus]

mycroft, on 2025-October-29, 11:18, said:

Have you shown your hand? Yes.
Has partner said where he wants to play opposite 5 spades and a minimum balanced opener? Yes. Well, okay, he might have said "I don't have enough strength to show my actual suit", but that's the price you pay for knowing "10-11 and a suit" when they do bid it.
Are you scared of leaving him in 1NT? Well, if not, you wouldn't be asking the question.
Should you pass or bid? Well, that's a question, but it's a question you answered last round. Now, you follow system, and apologize to partner for not taking zero if he goes down - whether it goes down in any contract, 2♠ is better on the 5-2 (sure about that?) or even if 2♦ on the 6-2 is best.

Exactly. Running scared is NOT a reason to decide any bidding decisions on. It is a reason to plan your bidding earlier on1. If playing 1NT scares you, you should have passed the board out or opened a weak two. You simply can't bid again now.

[jillybean]

Easy pass, partner has offered to play in 1nt. My hand is not worth a second bid.
If you are not happy to passing 1nt, I think you should reconsider your opening, you only have 1 bid.