[Cyberyeti]

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My partner held this and had this unenviable decision, what do you lead and how clear is it ?

[mike777]

KC

[jillybean]

J♠, as clear as mud

[P_Marlowe]

You could sell me any card, except trumps, ..., I would go with spades, and the specific
card is depend on your agreement.

It is not an argument, but given that you play MP, the field is likely to go with spades.

4/5 card major matters, and how light you raise, we play 5 card, and I would know, that
p cannot have a 4-7 fit raise, i.e. chances increase, that he will be short, ..., some one
can tell me, if this add. information (dis)favors a spade attack.

[Cyberyeti]

P_Marlowe, on 2026-July-25, 11:05, said:

You could sell me any card, except trumps, ..., I would go with spades, and the specific
card is depend on your agreement.

It is not an argument, but given that you play MP, the field is likely to go with spades.

4/5 card major matters, and how light you raise, we play 5 card, and I would know, that
p cannot have a 4-7 fit raise, i.e. chances increase, that he will be short, ..., some one
can tell me, if this add. information (dis)favors a spade attack.

What matters is not 4 or 5 card majors but the style.

With 4♠/4m we open the minor, old fashioned Acol players open 1♠ so ours is only 4 if 4333 strong NT and can be assumed to be 5.

[P_Marlowe]

Cyberyeti, on 2026-July-25, 13:05, said:

What matters is not 4 or 5 card majors but the style.

With 4♠/4m we open the minor, old fashioned Acol players open 1♠ so ours is only 4 if 4333 strong NT and can be assumed to be 5.

Ok, would this mean, that your p always raises with 3 spades? And that not doing so basically implies at most 2 spades?

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2026-July-25, 07:19, said:

J♠, as clear as mud

I agree, without thinking that it is as clear as mud

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[Tramticket]

Hearts are out. Spades are likely to be on my right. CK looks most likely choice from the minors, but a diamond could be right.

[Cyberyeti]

P_Marlowe, on 2026-July-25, 14:29, said:

Ok, would this mean, that your p always raises with 3 spades? And that not doing so basically implies at most 2 spades?

Pretty much, he also has a bad raise to 2 and a good raise to 2 available, would I raise on a bad quacky 3(433) maybe not, but any 3 and a doubleton, definitely

[P_Marlowe]

Cyberyeti, on 2026-July-26, 02:02, said:

Pretty much, he also has a bad raise to 2 and a good raise to 2 available, would I raise on a bad quacky 3(433) maybe not, but any 3 and a doubleton, definitely

Than this basically the way we play it.
Now, someone needs to tell me, if the known shortage oppossite me is more in favour of a spade lead or not.
In the end, we always will be playing in a tenance, and we need to find the Q partner is holding.

The King of clubs is more likely before the Ace, so it may well be best, better than spade, ..., I still
would go with spade.

[apollo1201]

SJ for the classic
HQ for the outsmart (declarer will misguess partner s HJ!)
D8 for the risky
CK for the show-off

I ll stay classic for this time as I will have a lot of company

[WasWinM]

The doubler didn't take the push so partner should have a card or two. I lead a low diamond. That works if he holds the Q or the A and it's a suit where we might have tricks coming to us.

[thepossum]

King of clubs even though doubletons are allegedly useless

[shyams]

I'd prefer to lead a spade (depending on our carding agreement)

[Cyberyeti]

There was no way to win on this board, other than bidding 3♠ and not getting doubled. 3♥ always makes, we butchered the defence starting with the lead and conceded 170. Nobody else went beyond 2♠ which should make 7 but actually made 8 and 6.

Partner led a small trump, and I with xx, A10x, Q10xx, 108xx assumed he had xx and ducked. Dummy was Qx, xxxx, Axxx, AJ9. Declarer played a low spade towards the Q, partner flew the K and tabled his ♥Q, 10 tricks with the fortunate lie of the clubs.

[WasWinM]

Cyberyeti, on 2026-July-28, 07:06, said:

There was no way to win on this board, other than bidding 3♠ and not getting doubled. 3♥ always makes, we butchered the defence starting with the lead and conceded 170. Nobody else went beyond 2♠ which should make 7 but actually made 8 and 6.

Partner led a small trump, and I with xx, A10x, Q10xx, 108xx assumed he had xx and ducked. Dummy was Qx, xxxx, Axxx, AJ9. Declarer played a low spade towards the Q, partner flew the K and tabled his ♥Q, 10 tricks with the fortunate lie of the clubs.

I, for one, would be interested in seeing the total hand if you can recall it.

[jschafer]

♣K, as partner would have probably raised on some of the hands where a ♠ works, but not confident about the decision.

[Cyberyeti]

WasWinM, on 2026-July-28, 10:35, said:

I, for one, would be interested in seeing the total hand if you can recall it.

Well you've got 3 of the hands:

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[pescetom]

jschafer, on 2026-July-28, 11:13, said:

♣K, as partner would have probably raised on some of the hands where a ♠ works, but not confident about the decision.

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