[mike777]

Scoring: MP

(1C)=P=(1H)=?

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Your choice and more importantly why?

[pbleighton]

Playing Sandwich NT (4-4 or better in the unbid suits, less strength than a takeout double), this is easy.

If not, 1S, 2D, and double aren't terrible, especially at this vulnerability, but I pass. The opps are unlimited, I'm not quite strong enough for a takeout double, and I may not get to show 2 suits without overstating my strength.

Peter

[P_Marlowe]

X, the reason: it is safer than 1NT (provided that this shows
both suits), I can still play 1S.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

huh... wtp? isn't it an obvious dbl?

[mike777]

whereagles, on May 6 2007, 04:03 PM, said:

huh... wtp? isn't it an obvious dbl?

No, I am bidding one spade. I plan on passing after this and leaving the rest to partner.

If the auction gets competitive can the overcall often be superior to the takeout double?

[mike777]

Jlall, on May 6 2007, 04:22 PM, said:

I don't understand overcalling 1S at all. You have 5 diamonds and 4 spades, why not get both suits into play? If the auction gets competitive it will be much better to have Xed since A) partner won't think you have 5 spades and you may need to compete or save in diamonds. The only time overcalling spades will be better is when partner has a guess on opening lead and has to lead spades, but you will be on lead vs hearts and vs NT a diamond lead is probably better anyways.

Thanks for asking. To further the discussion and not to disagree with your points Justin I add these notes.

I was wonder if overcalling one spade, gets us to a 4-3 spade fit and 2 level spades partial competitive fit when right at MP or a 4-4 sac in 4spades. Note on this hand we are at fav vul at MP.
J7xx...J6....9x....A9xxx

[Fluffy]

I would double, I tend to give up on game after 1x-1y, so double over 1NT its more like a matter of shape.

[Codo]

If I agree that 1 NT is not natural but shows 4 Spades and 5 Diamonds, I will use this bid. In this case, I cannot double, because this would show another hand (4/4 in the suits f.e.)
Without this tool, I surely double to show exactly 4 Spades and around 4 Diamonds.
If the questions was, which way is better, I have no idea.
I think the majority prefer to have 1 NT still as an natural bid avaiable.

[Apollo81]

Jlall, on May 6 2007, 05:09 PM, said:

whereagles, on May 6 2007, 04:03 PM, said:

huh... wtp? isn't it an obvious dbl?

Agree. I would X with less too.

Agree.

[mikeh]

I thought I had wandered into the wrong part of the forum, when I read this post... isn't this a B/I hand.. in which double is clear?

[Winstonm]

Double. It's MPs so bidding is clearly right. RHO has bid the major so there is less likelihood partner will be on lead, hence no need to bid 1S as lead directing - besides, we may be able to compete in diamonds and a 1S pretty much eliminates diamonds if LHO raises to 2H.

[jillybean]

I voted double! ..without reading all the expert opinions first
Why? I have nice support in both unbid suits, the auction is at the 1lvl, I think my partner would expect 5 if i bid 1♠, I have both so, why not.

[helene_t]

1NT. This shows longer/better diamonds. With longer/better spades I double.

[Apollo81]

mikeh, on May 8 2007, 08:32 PM, said:

I thought I had wandered into the wrong part of the forum, when I read this post... isn't this a B/I hand.. in which double is clear?

Whether to double with this hand should belong on the B/I forum. Whether to double with less should not be there.