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5530 Monster

Poll: What are your bids on the first and second round? (46 member(s) have cast votes)

What are your bids on the first and second round?

  1. Double, Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Double, Double (4 votes [8.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  3. Double, 4NT (8 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  4. 2H, Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 2H, Double (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 2H, 4NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 2H, 5C (1 votes [2.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.17%

  8. 2S, Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. 2S, Double (14 votes [30.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.43%

  10. 2S, 4NT (7 votes [15.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.22%

  11. 2S, 5C (10 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  12. Other (2 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

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Posted 2010-September-11, 18:17

IMPs, white vs. red.
You hold ♠- ♥AQJ52 ♦AK7 ♣AQ982

Partner deals and passes, RHO opens 1♠. You make your first bid. LHO raises to 4♠, passed back to you.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 18:31

Split range Mike; then show the clubs. I think partner will know I have the "too strong" rather than weak one.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 18:40

Definitely start with double since we could so easily belong in diamonds. Then 4NT since if I double again partner might pass and I'm not thrilled with that, we could too easily be making and they have a lot of shape at this vul.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 19:13

A Michaels cue bid as a first move looks obvious, as you will have huge difficulties describing this hand otherwise. Follow with 5C.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 19:33

agree with double then 4nt.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 20:20

I would bid 2♠. I think the odds that we belong in diamonds are low enough that I'm willing to risk never getting there to describe my hand well in one bid. I would double when 4♠ comes back to me.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 20:35

Michaels then 5♣ doesn't show extra values to me, rather it shows extra shape.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 20:37

I chose x, 4NT, but I didn't quite read 2♠, 4NT or Double.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2010-September-11, 20:50

655321, on Sep 11 2010, 08:35 PM, said:

Michaels then 5♣ doesn't show extra values to me, rather it shows extra shape.

Yep. It only works with split range, I think. With wide range or decent hand plus it is different. On split range, the hand with just extra shape would be so bad it couldn't bid again for the five level.
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Posted 2010-September-11, 20:59

Perfect hand for X and 4Nt. In my book X followed by 4Nt always show a 0535/0355/0553 since with a 0(445) i prefer to X 4S and with a 6430 i prefer to overcall. Only trouble hand is a normal strenght 0(445) at Mp where you want to compete but are too weak to X.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 02:23

If you start with Michaels, you have to double on the second round. Even if you play split range.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 05:31

A double as a first move looks obvious, as you will have huge difficulties showing your diamonds with a Michaels cuebid first. Follow with 4NT.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 05:41

hijack: I'm wondering, would the doublers still double if we were playing specific two-suiters? I'm just asking because I have just started playing them and I don't know yet how to.

I know it's a good idea to double if you have 0355 and they opened 1S but that's a little different since it's an unbid major that we're implying by the double.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 08:07

hanp, on Sep 12 2010, 03:23 AM, said:

If you start with Michaels, you have to double on the second round. Even if you play split range.

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Posted 2010-September-12, 09:52

hanp, on Sep 12 2010, 03:23 AM, said:

If you start with Michaels, you have to double on the second round. Even if you play split range.

I would think especially with a split range
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Posted 2010-September-12, 09:57

what would michaels followed by 4NT show?
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:09

rduran1216, on Sep 12 2010, 09:57 AM, said:

what would michaels followed by 4NT show?

Whatever it shows, if you are trying to bring in your 3-card frag into the picture 4NT won't work. The double lets partner ask for the long minor via 4NT, but 4NT doesn't leave room.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:30

I mean, doesn't it seem like 4NT should suggest tolerance for all 3 suits?

Otherwise what would it show?
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:34

rduran1216, on Sep 12 2010, 11:30 AM, said:

I mean, doesn't it seem like 4NT should suggest tolerance for all 3 suits?

Otherwise what would it show?

So you're partner and you're 3244. What do you bid, 5♣? Does partner pass that when he's 0553?
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Posted 2010-September-12, 17:13

I would double and double, not very popular pick :(
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