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Posted 2010-September-13, 00:38
There is no popular pick anyway.
Great problem.
Great problem.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 00:56
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Michaels then 5♣ doesn't show extra values to me, rather it shows extra shape.
Yep. It only works with split range, I think. With wide range or decent hand plus it is different. On split range, the hand with just extra shape would be so bad it couldn't bid again for the five level
Even if you DO play split range I would expect a 5C bid to be a weak 5-7, not a strong 5-5. I've never really considered what the difference between X and 4N is to show the strong rebid.
(I voted 2S-then-4NT, just because I know partner will bid if I kick him hard enough, but I am by no means certain that either action is right.)
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Posted 2010-September-13, 02:22
Well, at least noone is passing. 
I chose 2♠ followed by 5♣, which partner apparently took as showing extra length in clubs.
5♣x-3 was not a good score, even though not everyone took their 4 top tricks against 4♠.
I chose 2♠ followed by 5♣, which partner apparently took as showing extra length in clubs.5♣x-3 was not a good score, even though not everyone took their 4 top tricks against 4♠.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 02:38
lol @ extra length in clubs
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Posted 2010-September-13, 03:02
Of course 5C shows extra length. What's the point of bidding 5C when you are 5-5?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 03:34
Free, on Sep 13 2010, 03:38 AM, said:
lol @ extra length in clubs
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Posted 2010-September-13, 03:37
gwnn, on Sep 12 2010, 11:41 AM, said:
hijack: I'm wondering, would the doublers still double if we were playing specific two-suiters? I'm just asking because I have just started playing them and I don't know yet how to.
I know it's a good idea to double if you have 0355 and they opened 1S but that's a little different since it's an unbid major that we're implying by the double.
I know it's a good idea to double if you have 0355 and they opened 1S but that's a little different since it's an unbid major that we're implying by the double.
Playing specific two-suiters, I would be much more likely to make my two-suited bid - firstly (and obviously) because partner is better placed knowing both of my suits, and secondly because I can sometimes bid my three-card fragment on the next round. Whether the second point is relevant depends on the strength of the hand and the order of the suits.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 04:37
Bonus question for those who chose 4NT on the second round: what do you plan to do if partner bids 5♦?
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Posted 2010-September-13, 08:40
JLOGIC, on Sep 13 2010, 10:34 AM, said:
Free, on Sep 13 2010, 03:38 AM, said:
lol @ extra length in clubs
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Do you really expect a 5-7 distribution? Opposite a 5-6 I'd rather play in the 5-4♥ fit than the 6-3 ♣ fit...
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Posted 2010-September-13, 08:50
I would bid 2♠ then double to show a good michaels.
Dbl + dbl is ok as well. Obscures the distribution a bit, but scores if pard has some diamonds.
Dbl + dbl is ok as well. Obscures the distribution a bit, but scores if pard has some diamonds.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 08:59
Free, on Sep 13 2010, 09:40 AM, said:
JLOGIC, on Sep 13 2010, 10:34 AM, said:
Free, on Sep 13 2010, 03:38 AM, said:
lol @ extra length in clubs
??
Do you really expect a 5-7 distribution? Opposite a 5-6 I'd rather play in the 5-4♥ fit than the 6-3 ♣ fit...
When a bid promises a 5-card minor, a 6-card minor is considered extra length.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
- p 1♠ 2♠
4♠ p p 5♣
p p X p
p p